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    Shadygrove's Avatar
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    Alya Mizar
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
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    There's also some definite bloat that needs to be addressed. At 37 base skills, plus 10 specialist skills, plus 10 more cross class skills, it's insanity. I don't need 57 skills to complete a craft. Most aren't being used, or if they are used it's in really rare situations, generally because I messed up somewhere.
    They said they are going to be dealing with button bloat.

    I never use skills that have RNG anymore. SH II + 70% or better is all. But the early crafting needs HT. So will stuff like that evolve into stuff we use later on?

    We will find out. Stay tuned. Same bat time, same bat channel.
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadygrove View Post
    They said they are going to be dealing with button bloat.

    I never use skills that have RNG anymore. SH II + 70% or better is all. But the early crafting needs HT. So will stuff like that evolve into stuff we use later on?

    We will find out. Stay tuned. Same bat time, same bat channel.
    Stuff ugprading is an easy way out. Removing the cross class and implementing it as natural abilities each job learns also lets them revise earlier skills. Gonna be annoying having to reconfigure all my bars before hitting Ishgard.
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Stuff ugprading is an easy way out. Removing the cross class and implementing it as natural abilities each job learns also lets them revise earlier skills. Gonna be annoying having to reconfigure all my bars before hitting Ishgard.
    The ironic thing is, when they brought Specialists about, I was saying that the system did not accomplish their stated goal (make single class crafters competitive with omnicrafters) and that the solution would be to simply grant, via specialist actions, all of the other cross class moves.

    They are still working on making single class crafters more competitive with omnicrafters. They’re just so far (apparently) reluctant to take the step I suggested but ahve been working slowly towards it.
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    The ironic thing is, when they brought Specialists about, I was saying that the system did not accomplish their stated goal (make single class crafters competitive with omnicrafters) and that the solution would be to simply grant, via specialist actions, all of the other cross class moves.

    They are still working on making single class crafters more competitive with omnicrafters. They’re just so far (apparently) reluctant to take the step I suggested but ahve been working slowly towards it.
    The thing is, single crafters will never be competitive with omnicrafters, because cross class components are needed.

    The only way to make 'single crafters' viable is if -everyone- can only be a single crafter, else you simply miss out on the big ticket items you have to charge more for to make up for the out of class components you have to buy, while having no advantage in your own specialized market.
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