Ready for Nier Dark Apocalypse?

[Jybril]

I'm indifferent. I wasn't too huge of a fan of Nier: A, I didn't care for the story and setting to be honest.
I did like everything else from the very little I played, which was past a tiny bit past the Carnival, which I loved the boss!
There's nothing wrong with more stuff and all, and 24 mans are my fave so meh.

My small complaint is, XIV feels like it keeps having Identity Crisis.
How about more original stuff from the game itself? Instead of the constant
Nostalgia Blasts. They're not necessarily bad (I'm still waiting for FF7/10 raids?)
but I wish it did something more within it's own game and not keep pulling from other games
and games nothing to do with the series.

[Vidu]

My small complaint is, XIV feels like it keeps having Identity Crisis.
How about more original stuff from the game itself? Instead of the constant
Nostalgia Blasts. They're not necessarily bad (I'm still waiting for FF7/10 raids?)
but I wish it did something more within it's own game and not keep pulling from other games
and games nothing to do with the series.

...they really are doomed if they do and doomed if they dont... a Nier-crossover was requested so often that getting one now seems more like them listening to the fanbase rather than them running out of original ideas (like the whole stuff in the current expanion, maybe?)

Just another case of "they cant get it right" - no Nier-crossover: People are asking for one... giving us Nier-crossover: People see this as indication of them being out of ideas...

[Voltyblast]

Just another case of "they cant get it right" - no Nier-crossover: People are asking for one... giving us Nier-crossover: People see this as indication of them being out of ideas...

Could've just been a limited event really: add the stuff from the game, add the costumes, add some other stuff, and boom, people are happy and when it's out it's on the shop for a 20 bucks or something.

An event seems too overblown when there are plenty better games with better fitting sitting for them, like valkyrie profile, the mana series, heck even star ocean would fit in since it's basically all fantasy with 0,1% of sci fi in it!

[Sterbin]

I'm excited as hell. Yoko Taro is a genius in my humble opinion, and I cannot wait to see what madness he creates to troll the players with Yoshi and the team! As well as the new music which will be godly.

[jameseoakes]

Considering we haven't seen much of anything, this conclusion is invalid. In fact, given past stories, unless they made a big mistake with this, it should be integrated just as any story side quests in FFXIV because, again, it's a story that is happening in the world of FFXIV. You don't have to play Nier or care about it to enjoy a new addition to the story of FFXIV, as this will be.

I maybe very wrong, but nothing about this looks like is meant to be integrated. It looks like there had been interest in integrating it in to 14 is just about shoehorning a very different game. Also given that a lot of the team making this have barely even played 14 I don't have a lot of faith.

[linay]

Nier has nothing to do with FFXIV

Nier doesn't, but Yorha Dark Apocalypse does.

I maybe very wrong, but nothing about this looks like is meant to be integrated. It looks like there had been interest in integrating it in to 14 is just about shoehorning a very different game. Also given that a lot of the team making this have barely even played 14 I don't have a lot of faith.

It'd be no different than any other side quest like Ivalice or Omega or Alexander. They're all integrated when they happen.

[Just-Communication]

**might be Shadowbringer spoilers below - don't read if you haven't finished MSQ**

So I was thinking about this thread and came across this video back in February 2019 when the collaboration was first announced:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4QU9Ni94j4

You can see that they're even joking about how Yoshida-san might be trying to destroy FFXIV by collaborating with Nier. xD Even if the alliance raid is a shoehorn, I'm still looking forward to seeing how they try to make things fit. It may end up being ludicrous but at the same time may also reveal a little more about the world of Nier: Automata.

Now that I think about it, my guess is the raid will take place in the First since some of the elements on Mt Gulg (like the white blocks) reminded me of scenes from Automata.

By the way am I the only one who noticed the Secret of Mana reference (flock of pink birds flying across the screen) in the Qitana Ravel dungeon as you emerge from the waterfall?

[XenoSamurai]

There is so many people here taking this way too seriously, don't forget that were playing this game for fun. This raid doesn't effect the main story at all and these raids are optional content, if you don't like it just skip the cutscenes and do the raid just for the gear. I for one am super excited for this raid as Nier:A is one of my favorite games.

[Alleo]

...they really are doomed if they do and doomed if they dont... a Nier-crossover was requested so often that getting one now seems more like them listening to the fanbase rather than them running out of original ideas (like the whole stuff in the current expanion, maybe?)

Just another case of "they cant get it right" - no Nier-crossover: People are asking for one... giving us Nier-crossover: People see this as indication of them being out of ideas...

Just do both: Have original raiding content maybe with some throwbacks to other FF games and then do crossovers in form of events.

[Vidu]

Just do both: Have original raiding content maybe with some throwbacks to other FF games and then do crossovers in form of events.

I honestly prefer having this intgerated straight into the game and baked into the current lore and/or story - instead of having yet another "traveller from a distant world" who magically appeared in Ul'dah, basically screaming at me "I dont belong here and I'll be gone in 2 weeks!" - thats actually always taking a bigger hit on my personal immersion than them being insipred by other games to design their crossovers. And before you tell me that I could just ignore those crossover events: The same goes for the 24-man-raid. (I also dont care to much about immersion at the end of the day - but the mysterious traveller story is getting old by now...)

On top of that I'd reckon that Nier is such a popular franchise by now that a lot of new people would be quite upset if they couldnt access the content anymore if they joined the game "to late" - we know that it always takes them a while to get the stuff on the mogstation. And even if its there... its the mogstation.

We should also consider that they might not have the ressoruces to do both an event and the 24-man-raid right now.

And, as some sort of a last point, I'd like to point out how often I see complains like "Its always the same, they dont have any new ideas, every gearset looks the same, all the bosses are the same" etc. etc. While I already disagree with those complaints (at least to a degree), I think its quite helpful for them to get other developers in for some fresh input that goes beyond just hiring a new artist or programmer. Having other people with decades of experience in making video games contribute something to FFXIV feels more like something we should embrace as a breath of fresh air - and not as something thats invasive to our game.

Bottomline: I'm excited to see the new impulses Nier might bring to the game and I'm happy they decided to put in the effort of incoorporating this as permanent content instead of doing just another "throw away" event with a traveller from another dimension.