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  1. #31
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheForce View Post
    I mean, there has to be some incentive to own an estate. You can't have something cost literally sextuple the price of an apartment and have be the exact same thing. And like I said in my first reply, it is very important to remember that estates are luxuries.
    The price of a house varies according to the size of the plot, you can do something similar to apartments. Anyway, improving apartments is not going to take anything away from current states, unless, the whole value of an estate is to be rare so owners can feel special for having one.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 09-17-2019 at 03:22 PM.

  2. #32
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Not sure if someone brought this up already, but I wonder if it's possible to instance the whole friggin' district. Get three or four of them for each and suddenly plot availability multiplies by the same number.

    Individual instances would still have some advantages though. You likely wouldn't have to load in between interior and exterior for example. That alone would be a helluva QoL change. I still like the idea of having neighbors though, even though nobody is ever outside or home.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheForce View Post
    I mean, there has to be some incentive to own an estate. You can't have something cost literally sextuple the price of an apartment and have be the exact same thing. And like I said in my first reply, it is very important to remember that estates are luxuries.
    Why though? In neither of your posts did you really offer a reason as to why things should be as they are. Why should they be a luxury item? Square has aggressively marketed housing and its various features since their inception, and they continue to dump resources into it even though most of the player base doesn't have access to say a yard or gardening plots.
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  4. #34
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    My brother agrees with you. All my excitement for housing died the day they released it.

    We buy the game, get a sub set up, then have the option to buy cash shop items, yet server space is always limited. Even after all the money they make every single month.

    Excuses grow stale after years of regurgitating the same tired lines.
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    Just my opinion. Won't lose sleep if you don't like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riastrad View Post
    My brother agrees with you. All my excitement for housing died the day they released it.

    We buy the game, get a sub set up, then have the option to buy cash shop items, yet server space is always limited. Even after all the money they make every single month.

    Excuses grow stale after years of regurgitating the same tired lines.
    I'm sorry to hear that your brother and you bought a game and paid a subscription fee for housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    unless, the whole value of an estate is to be rare so owners can feel special for having one.
    It is part of housing yes.
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    Jowy Khah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riastrad View Post
    We buy the game, get a sub set up, then have the option to buy cash shop items, yet server space is always limited. Even after all the money they make every single month.

    Excuses grow stale after years of regurgitating the same tired lines.
    Has anyone ever stopped to consider for one moment that this might actually be the truth and that these limitations just simply can't be expanded on for other reasons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hasana View Post
    It is part of housing yes.
    So you want other people to not have housing so you can have a sense of validation?
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by hasana View Post
    I'm sorry to hear that your brother and you bought a game and paid a subscription fee for housing.
    No we bought the game years before housing was even a thought. Snide comments won't get you very far.

    Quote Originally Posted by JowyAtreides View Post
    Has anyone ever stopped to consider for one moment that this might actually be the truth and that these limitations just simply can't be expanded on for other reasons?
    It is the truth. No one is doubting that. The obvious answer is to the problem is to expand with their growing market/player base. You could retort that making a brand new server farm is expensive and you would be right. ShadowBringers is doing incredibly well at this point in time though. Bringing in players from multiple avenues and not being willing or somehow unable to expand where necessary is an issue that needs to be addressed. It is a cosmetic issue, I understand that, but it is one of many that has been around for far too long. Heck, during one of the Fan Fests held recently had the main costume designer for SE lament that she wanted a new armor rig system so she could make better glamours for the game. So even staff within the dev team want to have new avenues to grow and better serve the player base.

    This game is wonderful and I would not have spent the better part of a decade playing it if I did not enjoy it. Something has to give though.
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    Last edited by Riastrad; 09-17-2019 at 06:58 PM.
    Just my opinion. Won't lose sleep if you don't like it.

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    Khalith Mateo
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    I want instanced housing but not in the way you think. The theatre company in SB had their own giant private airship that they lived and worked on. That is what I want for my FC.
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