Quote Originally Posted by Quor View Post
I think this "muddling" was Alex seeing the timeline split that came about when the Ironworks sent CT and G'raha back in time to the First. My point here being that the primal of time itself saw only a single diverging point in all the infinite futures that were considered, which lends a lot of credence to the idea that this was a one-time deal.
It definitely adds up, although Dayan was talking about Alexander's predictions like it's a computer running mathematical calculation of possibilities, rather than actually seeing the future, which shouldn't allow for discovering "unexpected" variables... unless it's good enough to predict everything up to the time travel invention and where they would go with it.

Even before all this, it seemed like Alexander needed more omniscience than a computer should have to make those predictions... will need to ask about it at the next lore Q&A opportunity, I think.



Quote Originally Posted by Quor View Post
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if at some point in the future we are responsible for creating at least some of the conditions that eventually allow for events of ShB to unfold in the future, essentially wrapping all this up into another stable time loop.
I'm not sure what you're picturing here.

The whole point of the time-travel plot was ensuring that we couldn't have a stable time loop, because that would lead straight back into the Eighth Calamity and the exact dark future that G'raha was trying to prevent from happening.

(If he'd failed his mission and couldn't save us or prevent the Calamity, that would result in a stable time loop - his actions are part of the overall timeline, even though he didn't successfully change anything.)

The events of Shadowbringers seem designed to "drive a wedge into the loop" and force us to take a different path from the natural flow of time, by making it impossible for circumstances to lead to the events he knows as history.