If you are going to do a Live Letter

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

There is absolutely no reason to include negative generalizations in a discussion. Even more so ones that you make on a whim against people you can’t even prove they apply to. You were in the wrong for making your statement, as it was completely unfounded and undermines the rest of what you said. Making presumptuous statements like the one you did is aggressive. Own it.

It wasn't Negative or aggressive, people are just taking it that way because they got offended by it. Which is any/everyones right to do so, your all adults, I wont tell you how to think, but Im telling you; how you took it isn't how I meant it to be took. Whatever, its unfortunate, life happens and moves on. And so will I.
Own it? When have I denied it? I know what I said, and I haven't once backtracked on the statement, I said what I said, and it wasn't taken the way I intended to.
It happens, welcome to the internet.

I’m still waiting for an adequate defense as to why we can’t have English translations in real-time. What you provided above doesn’t answer my question to you.

You want a Defense when I gave you a reason why they didn't have a Translator. Because they already had the show planned to not have a Translator, that it would be translated for everyone else later. Not good enough? Then I don't have a satisfactory answer, simple. Im not the devs or the company, ask them, not me.

You were commenting on it. I provided you with a reason why people keep bringing it up to you.

I said I know people other then Americans speak English. That wasn't asking why was it being said.
I appreciate you helping out, but I understood it just fine. Thank You though.

[Lorim]

English isn't bound to America only. It's an international language.

Like French which is a primary language in a lot of country across the world and is a language spoken by more than 500 millions of person... At some point in history French was even the international language.... But did you ever saw a FFXIV Live Stream whith a French Live Translator?

[Driavna]

Is not NA the biggest FFXIV market right now?

[HyoMinPark]

It wasn't Negative or aggressive, people are just taking it that way because they got offended by it. Which is any/everyones right to do so, your all adults, I wont tell you how to think, but Im telling you; how you took it isn't how I meant it to be took. Whatever, its unfortunate, life happens and moves on. And so will I.
Own it? When have I denied it? I know what I said, and I haven't once backtracked on the statement, I said what I said, and it wasn't taken the way I intended to.
It happens, welcome to the internet.

You keep denying it was aggressive when it was. And it had absolutely nothing to do with the request. You just brought it up for... reasons? I guess? I’m not offended—there just literally no reason for you to make statements like that in a discussion. It detracts from your points when you do that.

You want a Defense when I gave you a reason why they didn't have a Translator. Because they already had the show planned to not have a Translator, that it would be translated for everyone else later. Not good enough? Then I don't have a satisfactory answer, simple. Im not the devs or the company, ask them, not me.

That’s not a reason why we can’t have English translations. That’s you defending why the PLL was Japanese Audio Only. There’s a difference between what I asked and what you have written as an answer here.

Like French which is a primary language in a lot of country across the world and is a language spoken by more than 500 millions of person... At some point in history French was even the international language.... But did you ever saw a FFXIV Live Stream whith a French Live Translator?

This is a strawman. English is spoken all over the globe. It’s taught as a second language very early on in several countries. It is considered the unicameral language in this day and age. Asking for English translations in real-time from a company with global marketing is not a far off request. Personally, I wish we didn’t have to get our information from third parties and could get it far more easier from the source. Without having to wait for them to release an English digest.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

You keep denying it was aggressive when it was.

Also, please. It’s you’re.

Sure, moving on...
Please tell me what part of Me Telling you: "My Post is not Aggressive, people are just taking it that way" is me Denying what I said and not Owning up to it.
Because at this point, you just want to tell me what my own words meant instead of just accepting that people, including yourself maybe, got offended and thats the end of it.
Im not denying what I said, I wont take it back, I wont apologize for it, I said it. And it wasn't meant to be taken the way it was. But hey, it got taken offensively, nothing I can do about it. I asked a question, I generalized Americans, people got upset. 2 people flew off the handle over it.

I wasn't aggressive. I didn't make a speech about "You....Humans" or sit here and talk about something unrelated and say "I could slack off and be defended"
None of that Aggression came from me, over a Question. A generalizing question...but still a Question

[TheForce]

Wow.
/10char

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

You keep denying it was aggressive when it was. And it had absolutely nothing to do with the request. You just brought it up for... reasons? I guess? I’m not offended—there just literally no reason for you to make statements like that in a discussion. It detracts from your points when you do that.



That’s not a reason why we can’t have English translations. That’s you defending why the PLL was Japanese Audio Only. There’s a difference between what I asked and what you have written as an answer here.

Neat, an edited post. Alright then.....
Nope, again it wasn't aggression, no matter how many times you wish it, it wasn't. Id asked for you to prove it was aggression, but that would be more silly then this prolonged ABBAB of me telling you there was no aggression in what I said. I will meet you halfway and agree it didn't need to be said. But I said it. I generalized.

Again, if you want this Satisfactory and Adequate answer to your question that you seek, give it to SE. Im not the person to ask. I don't speak for them, I will just tell you that they already planned all of this 10 days (maybe 11 at this point) ago,with it announced on the Lodestone website, and people are complaining Now about it. The Live Letter was gonna have Japanese Audio, and everyone else will get a Translation Later. We will have to wait, we will all be caught up.

[Tsalmaveth]

Again, if you want this Satisfactory and Adequate answer to your question that you seek, give it to SE. Im not the person to ask. I don't speak for them, I will just tell you that they already planned all of this 10 days (maybe 11 at this point) ago,with it announced on the Lodestone website, and people are complaining Now about it. The Live Letter was gonna have Japanese Audio, and everyone else will get a Translation Later. We will have to wait, we will all be caught up.

Then maybe you shouldn't be here White Knighting so hard for them about it, if you can't answer the question people are asking in the first place.

Just saying...

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Then maybe you shouldn't be here White Knighting so hard for them about it, if you can't answer the question people are asking in the first place.

Just saying...

So am I, they announced this was happening over a week in advance. And people NOW wanna be upset about it.
Why would you sit here and expect me to answer why, just because I said what they already said, and that we should wait for the Translation?

[Tsalmaveth]

Let me try this again...

"You shouldn't White Knight for a company when you can't actually do it properly."

IE: Spending pages belittling people who have a complaint, which they find perfectly legit, only to turn around when confronted about it and go 'Oh well I'm not the person to ask/confront, I don't speak for them, ask them!' When... you know... that was the entire point of the thread that you have spent the last few pages putting down and telling people they shouldn't be doing at all.

There was banter and conversation people wanted to be able to follow along with in real time that having to rely on fans to get translated is... honestly? A bit sad for a AAA company. Yes, I'm fully aware it was announced as 'Japanese audio only' but it SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN at this point? That's what people are saying and they have a right to voice their opinion on this matter. That is the point of these forums. To have their opinions brought forward and they don't need to be shouted down by white knights defending every little thing the company does as if they walk on water. Companies do need to hear when they can better meet their client's needs, and that includes clients outside of the country. SE is big enough now that they can accommodate some form of translation ability for a major patch update and guest appearance that they know their world-wide audience is going to be tuning in for.