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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeref View Post
    Well I wouldn't say it removes them (if you are referring to my post on auto-skills) .
    It removes some of there value, in my opinion. We have a system that gives you access to these abilities, its called the armory system. You offer to add features that take away from this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeref View Post
    it generally never killed classes in other titles, I fail to see how it would here.
    Other titles? How many MMOs do you know that have this feature? How many of them have the armory feature as a main characteristic of the game, thus in my opinion, proving it may kill classes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeref View Post
    , for example, Shell gives you (this is a random number) 10% protection for 5 mins, Auto-Shell would give you 5% protection for 30 seconds. I'm just pulling random numbers here, have no interest in pretending I know how to balance a game, but that was just my opinion.
    i guess thats kind of my point, I think it screws with the balance of the armory system. A system I personally, am very fond of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    It removes some of there value, in my opinion. We have a system that gives you access to these abilities, its called the armory system. You offer to add features that take away from this.
    The entire Idea of Auto-skills, if you'd read my initial post (or maybe I just forgot to mention it) is that its a Job-specific materia, since we cannot use armory system with Jobs to just give stonewall to paladin for example. (is the impression I was under)

    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Other titles? How many MMOs do you know that have this feature?
    Sorry, I should have said Other Final Fantasy titles, A lot of FF titles had Auto-skills but it did not lower the need for proper support and healer skills and classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeref View Post
    The entire Idea of Auto-skills, if you'd read my initial post (or maybe I just forgot to mention it) is that its a Job-specific materia, since we cannot use armory system with Jobs to just give stonewall to paladin for example. (is the impression I was under)
    Oh I see .......I am confussed because you based your post on misinformation.

    You say
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeref
    we cannot use armory system with Jobs
    And Yoshi-P says
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida
    We are looking at jobs limiting cross class abilities.
    See the difference?
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    Last edited by Coglin; 01-15-2012 at 01:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Repeat your statement all you like, I know which one I believe.
    I wasn't really trying to be a dick, but you're kind of pushing me, arn't cha? like you're trying to pick a fight with me, did you miss it or did you just chose to ignore the "(is the impression I was under)" And even so you might find a different quote because in that quote you posted he said they're looking at Limiting cross class abilities. I can see how it might be difficulty to understand that "you can't tack whatever on your job" means "you can't tack whatever on your job" but hell if it doesn't retain its meaning no matter how it is phrased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeref View Post
    I wasn't really trying to be a dick, but you're kind of pushing me, arn't cha? like you're trying to pick a fight with me, did you miss it or did you just chose to ignore the "(is the impression I was under)" And even so you might find a different quote because in that quote you posted he said they're looking at Limiting cross class abilities. I can see how it might be difficulty to understand that "you can't tack whatever on your job" means "you can't tack whatever on your job" but hell if it doesn't retain its meaning no matter how it is phrased.
    You not making any since now. in more then one post you made the very specific statement that falsly claimed we will have no option to use cross class abilities with jobs, and that is simply not true. I clearified this once previously as have other posters.

    You are being a D**K because you are sitting here trying to cram down our throats that

    I will jump off a 123 story building today. (meaning "you can't tack whatever on your job")

    and

    I am looking at jumping off of a 123 story building today. (meaning we are not going to commit to the idea that "you can't tack whatever on your job")

    Are the same thing, and they are not, they are very different.

    Your intentianally falsly claiming that you garuntee we will not be able to use any cross class ability. When we know all the devs have said is that they are looking at the idea. which can just as likely mean we will have the same cross class abilities we do now, or even something in between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    You are being a D**K because you are sitting here trying to cram down our throats that
    I will jump off a 123 story building today.
    and
    I am looking at jumping off of a 123 story building today.
    Are different.
    I'm sorry, i was under the impression the thread was titled
    CONSIDERING JOBS WILL PROHIBIT THE USE OF SKILLS FROM ANOTHER CLASS
    con·sid·er·ing
    : in view of : taking into account
    It was really my fault for assuming you weren't illiterate.

    Seriously, does anyone read the damn thread titles when posting any more?
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