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  1. #23711
    Player
    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Kugane
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    There are some truly... special people out there. Labyrinth of the Ancients.

    Problem 1: One of our healers crashed and never came back. People didn't roll so they couldn't get booted. Made for a lengthy barrier at the start.

    Problem 2: Despite me constantly saying we need 4 on the pad, only 3 people (and eventually just me) ended up on the pad. I got a bit annoyed that I had to tell my party to "get on the damn pad" because B was literally begging my party to do one simple job. The kicker? Our only present healer gave the flawed logic of "not in range if on pad". -_- I'm a dragoon, a melee, in this run and yet I'm the only one with situational awareness.

    Problem 3: Someone pulls Thanatos early despite most of my Alliance (A) not being present so only 2 of us gets the buff. I bet we saved so much time with that early pull when the fight takes significantly longer due to the first buff getting wasted.

    Problem 4: Half of my party mysteriously disappeared for the bomb/winged demon part. I was tanking on dragoon for most of it until our tank finally showed up halfway. Of course I died in the attempt.

    Almost Problem 5: We barely got 4 people on the pad for ancient flare so we didn't wipe. Thankfully we killed the boss before the second ancient flare went off.

    I need bleach.
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    Last edited by Mesarthim; 09-11-2019 at 06:00 AM.

  2. #23712
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    Zeich's Avatar
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    Zeich Fieltas
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperfastJellyfish View Post
    They get a rez, die again, rez again and then i notice them sitting at awfully low HP. And ofc, they have no piece higher then lvl 71 and half of their gear was ilvl 290.
    Please tell me you typo'd 390 and don't actually mean 290, or I think I might cry a little. Oh wait... "Not decked out in Scaevan Gear" when base Scaevan is 390... yup. Tears starting.
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  3. #23713
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeich View Post
    Tears starting.
    Fix those tears with a Physick.
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  4. #23714
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    SuperfastJellyfish's Avatar
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    Naqu Ejinn
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeich View Post
    Please tell me you typo'd 390 and don't actually mean 290, or I think I might cry a little. Oh wait... "Not decked out in Scaevan Gear" when base Scaevan is 390... yup. Tears starting.
    I am sorry to disappoint, it was no typo. And I am even more sorry for saying this but... Mt. Gulg drops ilvl 418. So that was only a 128 ilvl difference.

    Have some tissues now!
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  5. #23715
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    Aosha's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Aosha Koz'ain
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Why are you wasting MP on clemency in the middle of your holy circle spam, lmao. If you die, you die, it's not really a big deal and it only shows that the healer is bad if they let you die. Personally I'll always keep my damage rotation going and my defensive cooldowns and if the healer let's me die then oh well it's on them.
    Hey, you do 0 Holy Circles when dead. Yes, it's on the healer if that happens, but if I have the ability to prevent a wipe, I'll use it, even if I lose damage for doing so (that kinda seems to be the design idea behind Paladin). The point of doing high DPS is to make things go faster, and there is no reality in which the pull goes faster if the tank dies but used an extra AoE (edit: with the exception of "it is a wipe even if you heal," in which case the skipped Clemency makes the wipe go faster).
    But yeah, usually I too am content just sticking to my HC spam and letting the healer play the "how low can you go" game with my HP. It's only when I get that serious feeling of "oh this'll go horribly if I just do the usual" that I stop playing blue bulky DPS. I guess it’s just a slightly different outlook into how we play the job.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    Problem 3: Someone pulls Thanatos early despite most of my Alliance (A) not being present so only 2 of us gets the buff. I bet we saved so much time with that early pull when the fight takes significantly longer due to the first buff getting wasted.
    Ah yes, Labyrinth in a nutshell.
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    Last edited by Aosha; 09-11-2019 at 04:15 PM.

  6. #23716
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    Aosha Koz'ain
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    Odin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Whenever I've queued into Trial roulette or normal Eden as tank recently (And often observable even when I'm not a tank), the instance starts as follows:
    Zone in. Other tank is in a cutscene and has their tank stance off. I put on my tank stance. Other tank's cutscene ends. Wall drops. Other tank puts on tank stance and instantly pulls.
    This has been it for every one of these for the last two weeks, minus one Inundation earlier today, where the other tank queued with stance on, and one Resurrection where the other tank did not put theirs on. Do people just not pay attention to what their party members are doing?

    Also related, why do I keep seeing Garuda-Egi in single-target situations? It's like every fourth Summoner I see hasn't even looked at what the pets do. Normally I wouldn't even complain about this here, but it's been happening so much.
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  7. #23717
    Player
    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aosha View Post
    Whenever I've queued into Trial roulette or normal Eden as tank recently (And often observable even when I'm not a tank), the instance starts as follows:
    Zone in. Other tank is in a cutscene and has their tank stance off. I put on my tank stance. Other tank's cutscene ends. Wall drops. Other tank puts on tank stance and instantly pulls.
    This has been it for every one of these for the last two weeks, minus one Inundation earlier today, where the other tank queued with stance on, and one Resurrection where the other tank did not put theirs on. Do people just not pay attention to what their party members are doing?
    No, not really. A lot of trials or raid roulettes the other tank doesn't have their tank stance on. I put mine on immediately if theirs is not, as much as 5-10 seconds in advance in most cases. They still some reason turn it on. Just 2 days ago I got Suzaku for trials and after 1 wipe (adds werent killed fast enough) with a new cotank I asked them to turn off royal guard so they don't contest aggro.
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  8. #23718
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    MikuMitsuko's Avatar
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    Sayuri Yukimura
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Ok I don't want to double post so I'll just replace my last post with this. It's more relevant, anyway.

    I'm starting to believe that my DRK and SCHs are just.. not meant to be. Got a SCH who literally did zero dps *not even a single DoT*. Of course, it was in Dohn Mheg.

    The SCH spent 99% of their time spamming Physick. They'd even Physick if Excog was up and I was almost full HP - which I often was, considering I tried a large pull and we wiped because Physick spam and low dps, so I had to pull small. They didn't even Broil their binding roots on Griaule and nearly died to Swinge.
    Worst part though was when they Physick spammed the last boss's Finale. You know, where you have to walk across the illusionary pit so you can damage the boss? The part where NO ONE CAN TAKE ANY DAMAGE? He Physick'd that. Everyone at full HP... and he just kept on hitting his favorite button.

    I always get ridiculous people on my DRK. It's always a SCH. And DOHN MHEG IS CURSED
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    Last edited by MikuMitsuko; 09-11-2019 at 08:46 AM.

  9. #23719
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    KaleShibata's Avatar
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    Kyzunro Shibata
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MikuMitsuko View Post
    Ok I don't want to double post so I'll just replace my last post with this. It's more relevant, anyway.

    I'm starting to believe that my DRK and SCHs are just.. not meant to be. Got a SCH who literally did zero dps *not even a single DoT*. Of course, it was in Dohn Mheg.

    The SCH spent 99% of their time spamming Physick. They'd even Physick if Excog was up and I was almost full HP - which I often was, considering I tried a large pull and we wiped because Physick spam and low dps, so I had to pull small. They didn't even Broil their binding roots on Griaule and nearly died to Swinge.
    Worst part though was when they Physick spammed the last boss's Finale. You know, where you have to walk across the illusionary pit so you can damage the boss? The part where NO ONE CAN TAKE ANY DAMAGE? He Physick'd that. Everyone at full HP... and he just kept on hitting his favorite button.

    I always get ridiculous people on my DRK. It's always a SCH. And DOHN MHEG IS CURSED
    As a fan of being a SCH healer, you have made me sad. I've legit done up a rotation and everythings going right that excogs up at their full hp pulls getting going and my mp bar becomes the art of war bar...

    then i hear stuff like this and i just...I'm sad okay?
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  10. #23720
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    Raltar's Avatar
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    Character
    Raltar Arianrhod
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aosha View Post
    Whenever I've queued into Trial roulette or normal Eden as tank recently (And often observable even when I'm not a tank), the instance starts as follows:
    Zone in. Other tank is in a cutscene and has their tank stance off. I put on my tank stance. Other tank's cutscene ends. Wall drops. Other tank puts on tank stance and instantly pulls.
    This has been it for every one of these for the last two weeks, minus one Inundation earlier today, where the other tank queued with stance on, and one Resurrection where the other tank did not put theirs on. Do people just not pay attention to what their party members are doing?
    What I normally do, since I normally load before other people in the group, is that if I see the other tank has more HP than I do, I don't turn tank stance on unless we stand around with neither of us in tank stance for about 15 seconds. But if I have more HP, that generally means I have better gear and would be the logical choice of tank. But I don't have the patience to play tug of war with the boss, so if the other tank provokes on cooldown to try and tank it, I let them have it. They usually die and I end up tanking anyway.

    But after about 20 seconds into a boss fight, if I'm not MT, I turn tank stance back on so I can be second on the agro list so if the tank dies, I will be able to pick it up easier. Plus add phases.
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