Quote Originally Posted by Samsta View Post
Whm has always been what is is now though, at most we had 3 dots in heavensward but you only used aero 1 if you needed to weave since it's overall potency was less than stone 3. So we basically lost 1 dot and gained afflatus misery. I can undestand astro, but whm is what is has always been, so if you don't like whm now you never did.
I'm sick of seeing this argument. You cannot say that losing a DoT, a close range oGCD, a dedicated weaving tool, and Cleric Stance in either form was nothing. Afflatus X are a nice addition, but it does not make up for the losses alone.

Extra DoTs to juggle are something both in terms of non-nuke GCDs and a skill gap. If they weren't, SE wouldn't rush to consolidate them expansion after expansion in order to idiot proof the game.

Fluid aura was something.

Cleric stance rewarded good risk assessment on program and good fight knowledge on farm. As a CD, it still played into aligning raid buffs.