Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Nynuwe]

Happy 1000th again
It's true hairstyles for viera seem lacking right now, but I try to consider it as a sort of preview for what's to come lol
We'll get more hair in time, and I'm happy viera came out at all.
tbh I rather something come out rushed, but then worked on slowly over time, than being left with nothing and wondering if viera will ever be added. I don't like being kept in the dark, so I'm ok with this. As long as the devs do intend to work on adding more hairstyles and stuff.

In fact, I'd be happy if they "rushed" out male viera with not many hairstyle options at first, and then have more added over time. I know some of you will disagree and say it's better to have a completed product come out, but idk, it'd give me some peace of mind knowing the race is out and that they're working on it.

Oh my goodness, I'm not the only one who feels this way? I was so shy to voice this exact same feeling. I can feel anxious with long waits so this type of step-by-step/piece-by-piece content release is more comforting to me. It gives me reassurance things are being worked on, but I can understand why others would feel differently. I'm glad to know I'm not crazy, or at least, not the only one with this particular brand of thinking.

[CoolDad]

Happy 1000 pages loves! Once again here to express my support for male Viera and female Hrothgar.

[Duskane]

Call outs normally get people a temp ban and post are deleted

[Fredco191]

Welcome back to page 1001.

[CoolDad]

lol I missed whatever nonsense happened between pages 980 or so and now but whatever. 1000 pages! Been in a bit of an art funk so I sketched something. Here's to 1000 more

[Senn]

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Awesome artwork! Thanks for sharing

[Crushnight]

Well that was a hell of a read from page 982 XD

When Hrothgar was announced there was plenty of vitriol thrown at male Hrothgar, the devs, male Viera supporters(yea people tend to try an overlook that a lot of people at the time of announcement were being very spiteful to these people too saying stuff like glad they didn't decide to cater to the *insert nasty words here*) so no side was immune to the toxicity being flung everywhere at that time.

Nowadays though the community at least on OF has mostly(few outliers) calmed down and are a lot more rational about the races citing genuine problems with the current implementation and giving reasonable opinions on things, the people who come in here purposely to stir the pot are the aggressors now and it is better that way since it is a lot easier to refute them because they tend to use strawman arguments of ERP :P

Still hoping for the bunny men so the gay Vil i befriended can come out of hiding and help him find that man he was interested in.

Also little more on topic if male Viera were to become a thing i would want a lot of their emotes to be close to female Viera being refined/subdued but i would love for their /happy to be a little over the top showing a small bit of playfulness is underneath

[Theodric]

I really don't understand this scorched earth policy of the mods.

The policy is a double edged sword. On one hand, there are posts that should rightly be removed. On the other, it has led to a situation where some posters pretend as if certain statements have not been made earlier on in this thread due to a lack of evidence in the aftermath of deletion.

I can only speculate, but it seems as if posts are deleted in clusters - so even a loose association with a more offensive post can result in removal.

[SturmChurro]

The policy is a double edged sword. On one hand, there are posts that should rightly be removed. On the other, it has led to a situation where some posters pretend as if certain statements have not been made earlier on in this thread due to a lack of evidence in the aftermath of deletion.

I can only speculate, but it seems as if posts are deleted in clusters - so even a loose association with a more offensive post can result in removal.

What I don't understand is why was my post removed when I had nothing to do with any arguments that happened after it - I hadn't checked the forums for the entire day .. while there are several other posts up on the same topic of my post that was deleted. Makes literally no sense. I have the feeling they just delete the ones that get reported and the ones surrounding it and move on; firebomb the reported post(s). I suspect they don't check the thread unless there are reports made. They are definitely deleted in clusters.

[Alleo]

Yes I do. Because there simply isn't enough Housing for the large playerbase. Plus I think they already had plans for Shiro housing.

The housing issue was talked about for years (and its still a problem with a growing playerbase but not enough housing) and we already had a few releases where people simply could not get houses and who complained. But I have in all the time never have seen such a rage on this site or even other sites when Shirogane savage happened. They always talked about not being able to give us much more but after THAT complaining and the bad press they suddenly were able to double the wards in all housing districts. That would have never happened without people being at the tipping point with that. Yet even now we still have that topic come up.

The bunny outfit was released years ago and people constantly remained them about it. It was only for that reason we even got the version we now have ingame. The same with the carbuncles. They fall in the category of egi glamour, a topic that constantly pops up in the general forum and even now we sometimes have threads asking where the rest is. They also asked about this in liveletters a lot and imo this the only reason we even got carbuncles.

Why is housing a real issue but gender locks seemingly not? Gender locks are an issue and people are not able to play the gender they want for something that even exists ingame even if its not shown. We dont know if they need constant reminders or not, maybe they dont care or maybe they do care and are hoping that we continue with it so that they can show the higher ups that there is a demand thus the money needed for it would be well used.

Sadly today a lot of stuff is only changed if the customers keep up with it. A small time of complaints and nothing more? Well people dont want it and it costs money so we dont do it. People in some ways constantly talking about it and keeping it up? That should at least show that there is some kind of demand. Also if new players visit the forum they will see the thread right away and can leave a like on the first post which is probably the biggest thing of showing demand too. (Probably the highest liked thread in the whole history of FF14 forum)

And honestly how are we nagging them? Most of the discussion in this thread is about the viera themselves. And if asking about this in the liveletters that are happening every months is nagging well then anything can count as that.

The last point was also not 100% only towards you. There have been people complaining that this thread still exists and that people talk in circles in it. And thus my answer: Who cares if they do? Nobody is forced to read it and if enough are there to still talk (in circles) then that should be fine.

Genderlocked races don't actually effect a game. Peoples Hatred of Female Only/Male Only is the issue. Not being able to deal with it is the issue. The people, not the Game.

No it does not effect your gameplay, it does it for others. Race is important otherwise we all could just have one race and be done with it.

Heck soon another Asia MMO will be released and it has genderlocked jobs in the original version in it. The publisher already made sure to say that this wont be in the western release and you can play the job with every gender you want because they know that genderlocks are not that acceptable in our part of the world. So if gender locks dont effect games, why are they doing the extra work? Maybe they have better numbers on how people want a game.