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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Keddera_StormMoon View Post
    It astounds me how having a simple damage rotation of one extra dot and two extra buttons for AE is somehow more compelling to some people playing Scholar.

    Our DPS rotation, such as it is, has always been pretty damn boring.

    At least when sitting in a group spamming Art of War, I need to dance around the AE's as much as the tank does. To me, that's way more engaging than stepping in for a quick Miasma 3 then stepping out to go back to spamming Broil as all my dots are now applied. *Shrug*
    I loved miasama II because it was useful in AoE and single target situations. I can agree that it being the only spam aoe we had was dumb, which is why art of war should have been added on top of it, not outright replacing it, but in single target situations, AoW may as well not even be on your hotbar. Also having multiple dots with different timers, while not the most exciting thing in the world nor the most complex thing in the world, it was something to watch for and get better at. You also had a fairy back then that made an impact:, which was also something to watch for. Now fairy is so unresponsive and her healing so weak, she's only really good for 3 more aetherflow with dissipation, and outside of that, she's just there to look pretty, so I rarely bother placing her outside of like, 3 situations in Savage. (Not to mention what they did to poor Selene)

    Nobody will ever convince me AoW spam is better than miasma ->bio -> shadow flare -> bane - > miasma II.
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    Tifka Stormmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    I loved miasama II because it was useful in AoE and single target situations. I can agree that it being the only spam aoe we had was dumb, which is why art of war should have been added on top of it, not outright replacing it, but in single target situations, AoW may as well not even be on your hotbar. Also having multiple dots with different timers, while not the most exciting thing in the world nor the most complex thing in the world, it was something to watch for and get better at. You also had a fairy back then that made an impact:, which was also something to watch for. Now fairy is so unresponsive and her healing so weak, she's only really good for 3 more aetherflow with dissipation, and outside of that, she's just there to look pretty, so I rarely bother placing her outside of like, 3 situations in Savage. (Not to mention what they did to poor Selene)

    Nobody will ever convince me AoW spam is better than miasma ->bio -> shadow flare -> bane - > miasma II.
    Followed by Broil over and over again until your dots wore off if no healing was needed. Be honest with yourself - it was just as mindless.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Keddera_StormMoon View Post
    Followed by Broil over and over again until your dots wore off if no healing was needed. Be honest with yourself - it was just as mindless.
    Somebody else gets it. Our Single Target rotation has always been mindless. Put on DoTs, spam Ruin/Broil, use Energy Drain to drop excess stacks. Nothing has changed, but people are acting like it's the end of the world.
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Somebody else gets it. Our Single Target rotation has always been mindless. Put on DoTs, spam Ruin/Broil, use Energy Drain to drop excess stacks. Nothing has changed, but people are acting like it's the end of the world.
    Two DoTs plus Spam is less mindless than one DoT plus spam, just because you do have to do (a little) more thinking. Claiming otherwise is just silly.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    Two DoTs plus Spam is less mindless than one DoT plus spam, just because you do have to do (a little) more thinking. Claiming otherwise is just silly.
    Oh, so an extra DoT every 30 seconds is less mindless? No, it's the same mindless. Miasma, Bio II, spam Broil. Miasma, Bio II, spam Broil. You're still spamming Broil 8 times in a row.
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