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  1. #51
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    Straynge's Avatar
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    Ferris Straynge
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    I hardly ever play my Scholar anymore. It's A. Super easy but more important B. Super boring. You literally have one damage button. Solo'ing to 80 drove me nuts. Every pull went like this. Apply dot, spam my one damage button at least 9 if not 11 times until the mob slowly dies. Rinse and repeat. I get that they wanted healers to heal more but by taking away their few damage abilities that they had made them extremely boring. I want to do more than heal. Most of the healing is done by my Faerie anyway. I can go through most every Trust without ever having to use a major heal.

    IDK. I don't really play them that much but my God was it so boring now. At least give me two buttons to spam. Nintendo had a controller with two whole buttons. It's 2019. I'm playing one of the best mmo's ever and I have less buttons than I did when playing my Nintendo. Scholar could be played with an Atari controller

    OH, I know I have a dot too but it's not like you can even notice it's doing anything so it's practically useless. One button....that more than anything will drive people away from the healers. I know I don't want to play them which is a shame because I was just starting to enjoy them a little.
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  2. #52
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    This thread is a mountain made from a molehill.

    For the vast majority of content now, it's gone back to Tank in Need. AST is actually in a really good spot right now. There's really not that many people still hung up on card changes. Certainly not enough to cause queue delays.

    The reason your queue is so long, OP, is because it's content that no one does anymore. I'm actually partially convinced you already know that that's the reason (since you wouldn't mention the specific content you were trying to do), and you're just making a stir-the-pot thread to complain about healers and not get your thread deleted.

    For outdated content like that, you need to make a Party Finder to get it fast. And if you're trying to do an old trial synced (versus unsynced), then be prepared to wait awhile.
    Maybe on your DC but Aether still has Healer in Need fairly regularly. As for Astro... well, a quick glance towards FFlogs will tell you it's decidedly unpopular this tier—pulling seven times as few clears on Titan. The only reason people have been less vocal about Astro and the cards are because it's beating a dead horse at this point, and Yoshida outright said they aren't touching Astro in 5.1. Not to mention, the massive DPS discrepancy has kind of overshadowed things a bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    Making healer into a heals focused class like all the people crying on the forum wanted created a boring one note role. Who could have possibly seen this coming?

    News at eleven.
    To be fair, many people who preferred that style expected to actually have to, you know, heal. The devs made healing arguably easier while reducing the DPS aspect down to almost nothing. That's why people are so upset over it.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 09-09-2019 at 09:30 PM.
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  3. #53
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    Mimi Peach
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    Balmung
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    Sage Lv 100
    Yeah OP is either referring to an EX trial or is simply trolling. The fact of the matter that they've been asked at least 4 times what specific trial and no response leads me down the trolling route.
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  4. #54
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    Novae Ombreloup
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 90
    no the reason why people are less vocal about AST is because it is perfectly viable in most content AND is only unpopular among the 1-3% of the playerbase who have savage on farm.
    Back on topic, when I queue with tank, healers are on demand, and when I queue with my healer, tanks are on demand. Even when tanks are on demand tho, I have insta pop with my healers. Which isn’t always the case when on tank.
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  5. #55
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    Jennah Arhtima
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    Ultros
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Sounds like OP got a slow queue time for Ramuh EX, or an unbelievably fast one for the first coil of Bahamut.

    If he hadn't said "2 healers", I'd have put my money on the Amdapor Keep bot-issue.
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  6. #56
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Novae View Post
    no the reason why people are less vocal about AST is because it is perfectly viable in most content AND is only unpopular among the 1-3% of the playerbase who have savage on farm.
    Back on topic, when I queue with tank, healers are on demand, and when I queue with my healer, tanks are on demand. Even when tanks are on demand tho, I have insta pop with my healers. Which isn’t always the case when on tank.
    The thing is, while AST might have been the less powerful of the healers in terms of potencies, it's game play is by far the most engaging. While the other two healers are stuck with one button rotations during the long stretches of healing downtime, AST has the card gimmick that keeps them busy.

    Still I believe AST would be much more satisfying if its three seal potency Divination was much stronger. Something like 2/4/10% Damage.
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  7. #57
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    Nami Heartfilia
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Maybe I am weird but I am loving playing a healer now its so much fun and no I am not trolling
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  8. #58
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by bezal View Post
    Maybe I am weird but I am loving playing a healer now its so much fun and no I am not trolling
    I do too. The forum banter on how bad they are doesn't' phase me one bit.
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  9. #59
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    Tifka Stormmoon
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 90
    It astounds me how having a simple damage rotation of one extra dot and two extra buttons for AE is somehow more compelling to some people playing Scholar.

    Our DPS rotation, such as it is, has always been pretty damn boring.

    At least when sitting in a group spamming Art of War, I need to dance around the AE's as much as the tank does. To me, that's way more engaging than stepping in for a quick Miasma 3 then stepping out to go back to spamming Broil as all my dots are now applied. *Shrug*
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Keddera_StormMoon View Post
    It astounds me how having a simple damage rotation of one extra dot and two extra buttons for AE is somehow more compelling to some people playing Scholar.

    Our DPS rotation, such as it is, has always been pretty damn boring.

    At least when sitting in a group spamming Art of War, I need to dance around the AE's as much as the tank does. To me, that's way more engaging than stepping in for a quick Miasma 3 then stepping out to go back to spamming Broil as all my dots are now applied. *Shrug*
    I loved miasama II because it was useful in AoE and single target situations. I can agree that it being the only spam aoe we had was dumb, which is why art of war should have been added on top of it, not outright replacing it, but in single target situations, AoW may as well not even be on your hotbar. Also having multiple dots with different timers, while not the most exciting thing in the world nor the most complex thing in the world, it was something to watch for and get better at. You also had a fairy back then that made an impact:, which was also something to watch for. Now fairy is so unresponsive and her healing so weak, she's only really good for 3 more aetherflow with dissipation, and outside of that, she's just there to look pretty, so I rarely bother placing her outside of like, 3 situations in Savage. (Not to mention what they did to poor Selene)

    Nobody will ever convince me AoW spam is better than miasma ->bio -> shadow flare -> bane - > miasma II.
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