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  1. #1
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    Lorim's Avatar
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    Kaenel Artelus
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    Sagittarius
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    Marauder Lv 31
    I agree with OP, New player souldn't start with ARC right now.

    I'm an old player who stopped then came back a few timesince the V1.
    During Hw/SB i played Summoner with great pleasure and it was an easy class to solo with.

    I came back for Shadow bringer, but beofere starting i read a little about the expansion and the change, so i choose to start from zero on a new server.

    I choose ARC, since summoner was my favorite class for a long time.

    First suprise when i started was : "WTH where are my DPS? it take too long to kill mobs and i'm friggin fragile!"
    Oh well, my friend Carby will make up for that..... And here came the second surprise : "What?!!! is not clickable anymore?!! he doesn't get aggro?!!!.... And what the f*** is this f***** AOE?! he pull too many mobs!!!!"
    So, i started to farm xp like mad to get Topaz, my little cute personal Tank.... And here come the third surprise..... A crappy pet who doen't generate aggro with no DPS and a useles Shield with a long CD and which is token down in one hit.... i was bewildered

    I still decided to start the Class Quest on the boat. This one always been a little technical in the past, not hard, but was a great tuto on how to use your tank pet.

    And, what isaw was several mission faill because, since Topaz can't tank anymore, have bad DPS and you have yourself a low DPS now, the NPC was dying very very quickly....

    So i deleted the character and started this one.... And you know what? It was ten time more easier and quicker to play with a healer..... Ironic no?

    So yeah, there is actually a massive problem with ARC/SMN.... this "rework" wasn't well prepared at all, in fact i even have doubt that it was tested at all by SE.
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    Last edited by Lorim; 09-08-2019 at 04:52 PM.

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    Samsta's Avatar
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    Amael Yuki
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorim View Post
    I agree with OP, New player souldn't start with ARC right now.

    I'm an old player who stopped then came back a few timesince the V1.
    During Hw/SB i played Summoner with great pleasure and it was an easy class to solo with.

    I came back for Shadow bringer, but beofere starting i read a little about the expansion and the change, so i choose to start from zero on a new server.

    I choose ARC, since summoner was my favorite class for a long time.

    First suprise when i started was : "WTH where are my DPS? it take too long to kill mobs and i'm friggin fragile!"
    Oh well, my friend Carby will make up for that..... And here came the second surprise : "What?!!! is not clickable anymore?!! he doesn't get aggro?!!!.... And what the f*** is this f***** AOE?! he pull too many mobs!!!!"
    So, i started to farm xp like mad to get Topaz, my little cute personal Tank.... And here come the third surprise..... A crappy pet who doen't generate aggro with no DPS and a useles Shield with a long CD and which is token down in one hit.... i was bewildered

    I still decided to start the Class Quest on the boat. This one always been a little technical in the past, not hard, but was a great tuto on how to use your tank pet.

    And, what isaw was several mission faill because, since Topaz can't tank anymore, have bad DPS and you have yourself a low DPS now, the NPC was dying very very quickly....

    So i deleted the character and started this one.... And you know what? It was ten time more easier and quicker to play with a healer..... Ironic no?

    So yeah, there is actually a massive problem with ARC/SMN.... this "rework" wasn't well prepared at all, in fact i even have doubt that it was tested at all by SE.
    The 5 yalm aoe of emerald carbuncle shouldn't pull you any more mobs if you pull them one by one, and if by some miracle it does you can handle like 2 mobs. Stop blowing things out of proportion.
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    Kaenel Artelus
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    Sagittarius
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    Marauder Lv 31
    Quote Originally Posted by Samsta View Post
    The 5 yalm aoe of emerald carbuncle shouldn't pull you any more mobs if you pull them one by one, and if by some miracle it does you can handle like 2 mobs. Stop blowing things out of proportion.
    I don't blow things out of proportion.... Because, before this rework, Summon always had AOE but i never got this problem.... Why?
    Because you could fully control them.... Which it's not the case anymore.... They just do what they want!

    The summon now feel like Mascot with attack.... the Chocobo is ten more a pet then any summon of the Summoner :/

    Way to go for a pet Classe/Job....
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    Last edited by Lorim; 09-09-2019 at 01:15 AM.

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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorim View Post
    So yeah, there is actually a massive problem with ARC/SMN.... this "rework" wasn't well prepared at all, in fact i even have doubt that it was tested at all by SE.
    I kinda feel the same about that, just like many/most jobs dont have any aoe till 38.... it hurts so much.
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    Mike Arklight
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorim View Post
    So yeah, there is actually a massive problem with ARC/SMN.... this "rework" wasn't well prepared at all, in fact i even have doubt that it was tested at all by SE.
    agreed that the rework arcanist/summoner probably wasn't tested cause with summoner, the pets become more irrelevant and its "nice to have but not that needed" and you end up abandoning summoning just for trance and fodder for bahamut/phoenix burst which in a way is sad and also very bad design wise.
    arcanist quests can still be cleared but its probably a bit harder i guess from it used to be and what you guys had to go through.
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    Last edited by CrimsonGunner; 09-09-2019 at 01:56 AM.

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    Dal S'ta
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorim View Post
    I agree with OP, New player souldn't start with ARC right now.
    Can we start to use accurate nomenclature here? Please? Arcanist and Archer both start with 'arc', but only one of them (Archer) is ARC. Arcanist/Summoner is ACN/SMN. Arcanist/Scholar is ACN/SCH.
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