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  1. #11
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    ICountFrom0's Avatar
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    Zedlizvez Mikasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    You're going to feel this even harder if you bundle it into the MSQ roulette.

    It's fine as-is, in my opinion.
    I don't think I would. 5 minutes work, 3 million exp, 200 tomestones. That's worth it to me.
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  2. #12
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    I don't think I would. 5 minutes work, 3 million exp, 200 tomestones. That's worth it to me.
    Which is exactly why they wouldn't do it.

    Not to mention - apparently people are already gaming the system and dropping out if the "wrong" MSQ roulette duty comes up. How much worse is it going to be if they could get a five-minute duty when they try again?

    Putting the four-man trials in the four-man dungeon roulette makes more sense. Sometimes it's annoying to get, sometimes it's good to have a quick duty.
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  3. #13
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    Onmyo Shugo
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    Just had Normal Garuda pop up last night. As dps that was a 25 minute wait for a sliver of exp on my bar. No sad face emoji can suffice to show my heartbreak
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  4. #14
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    Dirk Gently
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    What if they where moved into the MSQ Roulette?
    That will never happen. The MSQ roulette is set up specifically to reward people for sitting through the cutscenes for the zillionth time and helping new players get through without ruining the experience completely. It's probably misnamed as it isn't actually MSQ roulette. Maybe they should pick a more obvious name like Netflix roulette, or Cutscene purgatory.
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  5. #15
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    I don't think I would. 5 minutes work, 3 million exp, 200 tomestones. That's worth it to me.
    /laugh

    You actually think those same rewards would be available just for running a 4-player trial?

    Never mind the complete imbalance of cost/benefit, do you have any idea the absolute havoc that would wreak on MSQ roulette?
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  6. #16
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    In my experience, most of us love getting a quick 4 man trial in leveling roulette.
    Unless it's garuda then not really
    Its a waste of bonus exp since you get same as trial roulette
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocond View Post
    I think the best place for these trials would be the trial roulette.
    You! Get out of here. This is a video game internet complain with no real solutions because I'm talking out the side of my neck zone! Your rationale is not welcome!
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    /laugh

    You actually think those same rewards would be available just for running a 4-player trial?

    Never mind the complete imbalance of cost/benefit, do you have any idea the absolute havoc that would wreak on MSQ roulette?
    Yes, that's exactly what I'm proposing, give EXACTLY the same awards as the cutscene hell to the 3 "trials" and move em over.

    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    That will never happen. The MSQ roulette is set up specifically to reward people for sitting through the cutscenes for the zillionth time and helping new players get through without ruining the experience completely. It's probably misnamed as it isn't actually MSQ roulette. Maybe they should pick a more obvious name like Netflix roulette, or Cutscene purgatory.
    It feels just as bad when the dungeon I was depending on to level me, with the huge bonus, turns out to be a 5 minute trial that's pretty much a guildhest in disguise... So why NOT put them in there, and reward people for helping new players though them?
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  9. #19
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    It feels just as bad when the dungeon I was depending on to level me, with the huge bonus, turns out to be a 5 minute trial that's pretty much a guildhest in disguise... So why NOT put them in there, and reward people for helping new players though them?
    Because people will abuse it, and it will undermine the purpose of the roulette. People will drop out because they got Castrum/Praetorium and queue again until they get an easy trial, and it will be harder for newbies to find a party willing to stick with them.
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  10. #20
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    People are more likely to want prae for minimum effort and huge exp
    Only people who drop out of msq roulette these days are mentors who get in there mentor roulette
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