Can we please ban advertisements for selling clears from PF?

[AlphaFox]

Well for those wishing to know. I decided to ask one "Ask for details in Discord" here is the result. Green is me, not sure if name shaming counts so to be safe censored it.


They blocked me as soon as I said too much. Just to make it 100% clear, I have never bought a clear nor plan too, simply asking for the sake of information.

[Gula]

Well for those wishing to know. I decided to ask one "Ask for details in Discord" here is the result. Green is me, not sure if name shaming counts so to be safe censored it.

They blocked me as soon as I said too much. Just to make it 100% clear, I have never bought a clear nor plan too, simply asking for the sake of information.

Thank you, brave hero. I suppose when a tier is fresh the price is aimed towards whales and lazy Dubai oil barons.

[Vnolan]

simply asking for the sake of information.

It's not a matter of whether the sales are for real money, but whether the sales are being advertised in the PF using bots or multiple people with access to the same account.

Virtually all listings are for real money, are for gil but where the gil comes from doesn't matter or involve account piloting. Listings that are strictly carries for clean gil are a minority of a minority. Compare the number of that last group of players that would be affected by a prohibition on all content sales with the number affected by Feast chat removal and the inability to openly discuss parses. Insignificant, no? If SE had a problem with it, they would do something, but they don't so they haven't.

not sure if name shaming counts so to be safe censored it.

Yeah you wouldn't be able to post names but at the same time the info would assumed to be fake by the GMs and STF lol.

Yeah no, if a group is selling for gil they would

Arguments like that always have a response to them and only serve to reinforce that real money sales are allowed if kept to outside channels. In this instance, you wouldn't list gil prices because having interested parties contact you gives you a better chance to convince them into buying and it also prevents competitors from undercutting you, not to mention some groups price match or offer deals on multiple purchases, so listing a price wouldn't do any good.

I have a feeling people who don’t want to ban PFs that are demanding people go on Discord to discuss payment are RMT themselves.

The beauty of FFXIV's rules is the group contacted in that image can come into this thread, claim they're a group that only sells for gil and groups that sell for real money are a rarity that is being overblown and if Alpha tried to point out they were the ones contacted, Alpha's post would be removed and nothing would happen to any of the members.

[Lunavi]

Well for those wishing to know. I decided to ask one "Ask for details in Discord" here is the result. Green is me, not sure if name shaming counts so to be safe censored it.


They blocked me as soon as I said too much. Just to make it 100% clear, I have never bought a clear nor plan too, simply asking for the sake of information.

I think the fact that you asked 800 or 8.00 was the thing that got you blocked to be honest as I am 100% certain you were not there to legit buy a run at that point, and so were the seller as well...

But no one here doubts they are selling for IRL currency. However, SE needs to PROVE it, not by necessity because laws enforces it but because of the horrible PR nightmare it would give them if people came out and told stories about them getting banned despite doing nothing that was a banworthy offense in the game, and could back their claim up with proof while SE could not back their ban up because they don't have access to Discord's chatlogs.

[Jybril]

Well for those wishing to know. I decided to ask one "Ask for details in Discord" here is the result. Green is me, not sure if name shaming counts so to be safe censored it.


They blocked me as soon as I said too much. Just to make it 100% clear, I have never bought a clear nor plan too, simply asking for the sake of information.

Was this for real?
They must be out their flippin' minds selling content like that for $800.
I wonder if people really drop $100+ on clears like that.
Imagine paying the game, to pay someone else to play for you.
Wow. I mean, you can do whatever you want with your money
but I'ma be silently judging in the corner. I hate to be that one but
to those people paying these prices...