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    Could BLU possibly be the 4th caster in 6.0?

    Like.... officially fill the last caster spot? seem to me that caster is the only remaining spot for new job to fill but since BLU is already there and is getting something in 5.1...
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    In my wildest dreams I hope so.

    In reality seems unlikely unless we've managed to give SE a change of heart, the 4th caster slot will likely be taken by something like time mage, or something wholly original.
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    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
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    Blue Mage Morbol Mount Aquisition ~0.01% of active players. Community: "WoW bLuE mAgE iS sO fUn AnD aCtIvE i CaN't WaIt FoR mOrE lImItEd JoBs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    In my wildest dreams I hope so.

    In reality seems unlikely unless we've managed to give SE a change of heart, the 4th caster slot will likely be taken by something like time mage, or something wholly original.
    Can't imagine Time Mage as a dps... healer maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
    Like.... officially fill the last caster spot? seem to me that caster is the only remaining spot for new job to fill but since BLU is already there and is getting something in 5.1...
    I want this so bad. I love everything about BLU except that they can't use duty finder.

    They can do what the Diablo series does and make default spells for the 28 slots. With those being unlocked in the class quest to progress the story and unlock the duty finder. And the other spells would be similar and mostly comestic changes but with uses for the masked carvinal.

    Examples:
    Blue spell slot 1 (General attack):
    Water cannon (default)
    Sharpen knife (alt)
    Drill cannon (alt)
    Glower (alt)
    The look (alt)

    Blue spell slot 2 (support):
    Bristle (default)
    White Wind (alt)
    Mighty guard (alt)
    Toad Oil (alt)
    Magic Flute (alt)

    Blue spell slot 3 (Amlifier):
    Level 5 petrify (default)
    Faze (alt)
    Etc.
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    Won't happen. Yoshida is so worried someone, somewhere, sometime will be excluded from some kind of content because they didn't take the time to learn X or Y spell that without a major redesign it will stay limited. That's why it's a limited job in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    I want this so bad. I love everything about BLU except that they can't use duty finder.

    They can do what the Diablo series does and make default spells for the 28 slots. With those being unlocked in the class quest to progress the story and unlock the duty finder. And the other spells would be similar and mostly comestic changes but with uses for the masked carvinal.
    This also takes away everything the blu mage is. And there would be 0 reason to farm up the cosmetic versions of the spells so animations and the programming it takes to make it so we can learn a spell from a mob making it c complete waste of development time, money and resources.

    IMO make blu the 4th caster and if someone is excluded cause they don't want to learn specific spells that is entirely on that person. It would be the same thing as people who don't want to get abilities from job quests or wear their job stone. If you get excluded due to something that is completely within your control, but you refuse to do it cause RP or cause you "have a job, and family and a rl" or other such nonsense reasons, that's on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Won't happen. Yoshida is so worried someone, somewhere, sometime will be excluded from some kind of content because they didn't take the time to learn X or Y spell that without a major redesign it will stay limited. That's why it's a limited job in the first place.



    This also takes away everything the blu mage is. And there would be 0 reason to farm up the cosmetic versions of the spells so animations and the programming it takes to make it so we can learn a spell from a mob making it c complete waste of development time, money and resources.

    IMO make blu the 4th caster and if someone is excluded cause they don't want to learn specific spells that is entirely on that person. It would be the same thing as people who don't want to get abilities from job quests or wear their job stone. If you get excluded due to something that is completely within your control, but you refuse to do it cause RP or cause you "have a job, and family and a rl" or other such nonsense reasons, that's on you.
    You underestimate the value of glamour, people will hunt these spells for the same reason they took up BLU. Mounts are also a form of glamour since they all basically serve the same purpose yet everyone still wants to farm them. And I said the glamours would still have unique properties in the masked carvinal.

    If people don't want to learn specific spells they can't enter duty finder, that's why I said to restrict them until they have their default 28 spells.

    What baffles me is why people want to play BLU if they don't want to hunt for their spells. That is one of the defining concepts of BLU.
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    i still think they should have or should do two blue mages
    keep limited and Carnival as a side thing akin to Bard performance
    then one blue mage that's just a normal job
    And have to level limited blue to unlock DPS blue for continuity sake
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    Cynric Zerr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post

    What baffles me is why people want to play BLU if they don't want to hunt for their spells. That is one of the defining concepts of BLU.
    Which is also why I don't think we should just be given 28 spells even if via job quests. It's not blue mage then. The homogenization and the jobs that are a shadow of themselves due to the fact they stripped the combat system clean of attributes, buffs, debuffs and all the other stuff that made combat interesting and strategic is bad enough. Blu should keep its identity of nothing else.

    As I said, if someone cannot be bothered to do anything to prepare for content, outside maybe farming tomes, if they get excluded it is entirely on them. Let's light a fire under ppl backsides to actually do something outside of putting their hand out.
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    To add to that, they could also just remove the crappy rng factor from BLU spells to remove the grind of it so people won't avoid getting certain spells in the first place. If the monster uses the spell, and it dies from your contribution, you should learn it. In this way, you have better control of your spellbook and it won't feel like a bloody chore.

    I don't think anything would be imbalanced by BLU being not limited. If anything, it's terribly underpowered compared to everyone else. But skill exclusion will always be a thing. It was a thing back in 2.0 where you met lv50 cnj without cure 2 and today when you meet lv75 mnks without fist of fire. We still meet people in abysmal gear in leveling dungeons (I've been one of them from an unlucky roulette queue for that last stretch xp) and people that just refuse to wear jobstones or even use skills in their kit, shoutout to every tank who refuses to low kick or intervention).

    I honestly believe they could make BLU a real job if they wanted without hurting the identity they gave it already. They just have to want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
    Like.... officially fill the last caster spot? seem to me that caster is the only remaining spot for new job to fill but since BLU is already there and is getting something in 5.1...
    No, that's geomancer but not in 6.0. 6.0 is for a new healer.
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