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    Noitems's Avatar
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    Noitems Ever
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renryuu View Post
    After reading everyone's posts in this topic, I guess I really am gonna have to just learn to play Blm and stop playing Mch despite being so much more skilled at it and loving it to pieces. v_v
    DO NOT let the meta dissuade you from playing a job you find fun.

    I cannot stress this enough, if you want to play MCH then keep playing MCH because you enjoy it, KEEP PLAYING IT. If your raid group can't comply with it and wants to keep their normal set, then you'll just have to work harder and improve yourself through practice to cover that gap.

    The only reason people are shifting to BLM is that they can meet the same damage numbers a high lvl BRD/MCH can reach doing much lower level gameplay. I believe (please correct me if I'm wrong) it was stated a 50%tile BLM can meet the same as a 75-80%tile MCH in terms of dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    DO NOT let the meta dissuade you from playing a job you find fun.

    I cannot stress this enough, if you want to play MCH then keep playing MCH because you enjoy it, KEEP PLAYING IT. If your raid group can't comply with it and wants to keep their normal set, then you'll just have to work harder and improve yourself through practice to cover that gap.

    The only reason people are shifting to BLM is that they can meet the same damage numbers a high lvl BRD/MCH can reach doing much lower level gameplay. I believe (please correct me if I'm wrong) it was stated a 50%tile BLM can meet the same as a 75-80%tile MCH in terms of dps.
    Pretty much this. It's always better to be on a job you know well than to jump to another job for what it can potentially do. Unless you plan to really practice that new job. We're several weeks into the tier, even if people haven't been in savage yet the 460 gear everyone should have been buying is more than enough for any comp to cruise through e1-4s atm.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post

    What use does Summoner have when it gets utterly demolished despite rDPS purposely accounting for both jobs' overall contributions?
    Raise. And people still don't understand the amount of comfort a dps raise gives for how many dumb mistakes it'll let you get away with. Hell, we had 8 deaths on a titan reclear because we were messing around too much the other week, and brought someone new to the group. There's no way in hell we would have cleared that without a caster raise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerathor View Post
    Pretty much this. It's always better to be on a job you know well than to jump to another job for what it can potentially do. Unless you plan to really practice that new job. We're several weeks into the tier, even if people haven't been in savage yet the 460 gear everyone should have been buying is more than enough for any comp to cruise through e1-4s atm.
    Add in that we're getting the next set of Primal weapons in 5.1 (next month) and augmentation options for Deepshadow through Logs/Weekly drops and it'll be much easier.

    My hope is that SE notices outcry for Range Physical, SMN, and RDM(especially this one) and does proper adjustments to them. My current casual comp (Just been at E2S and haven't had a chance to get much in due to scheduling) is made of a dps core that usually winds up being BRDx2,MCH, and RDM. Legit this comp would make someone in the meta scream their heads off.

    Everyone in it needs to personally improve and the general parse numbers for other players shows that, but I won't ignore getting everyone more geared up to 460 will help ease people in, slowly working our way to better 470 gear.

    The moral though is having fun, and playing a job like BLM (for the OP's sake) simply for an ease in power creep is a bad sign of balance design. Here's hoping 5.1 takes care of these issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerathor View Post
    Raise. And people still don't understand the amount of comfort a dps raise gives for how many dumb mistakes it'll let you get away with. Hell, we had 8 deaths on a titan reclear because we were messing around too much the other week, and brought someone new to the group. There's no way in hell we would have cleared that without a caster raise.
    The one on aug 30? Where your rdm casted no raises, all 6 were from healers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AikenDrum View Post
    The one on aug 30? Where your rdm casted no raises, all 6 were from healers?
    It was 8 deaths, forgot 2 were at the end. Still not sure how the rdm had none. Weird, kinda assumed he did. Either way, the caster raise has helped out a lot.
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    Narumi Akiudo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    The only reason people are shifting to BLM is that they can meet the same damage numbers a high lvl BRD/MCH can reach doing much lower level gameplay. I believe (please correct me if I'm wrong) it was stated a 50%tile BLM can meet the same as a 75-80%tile MCH in terms of dps.
    50% blackmage pretty much does the exact same dps as a 80% mch, yes. and it stays like that, blm in the 60-70 range does as much dps as a 95% mch
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