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  1. #11
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    Hasrat's Avatar
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
    Or just restrict it to the player’s ilvl
    Nah. As a lower level player, it'd kinda suck if I couldn't join any WT parties because everyone had a higher ilvl than me.

    It doesn't need to be needlessly restrictive. Just needs to be attainable. Doesn't even need to be easily attainable. Just as long as there's a remote possibility that the PF will actually recruit players. Because if it can't recruit, it doesn't need to exist.
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  2. #12
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    Luke Lightbringer
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Nah. As a lower level player, it'd kinda suck if I couldn't join any WT parties because everyone had a higher ilvl than me.

    It doesn't need to be needlessly restrictive. Just needs to be attainable. Doesn't even need to be easily attainable. Just as long as there's a remote possibility that the PF will actually recruit players. Because if it can't recruit, it doesn't need to exist.
    What I meant was a player can’t set a PF with an ilvl requirement higher than their own
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  3. #13
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I agree with the notion that it should be banned simply on the basis that discussing terms outside of the game is opening up the potential for people to get scammed without any way of proving it.
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  4. #14
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Ul-Dah
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    As it is long ago, when content, that gets advertised for selling, was doable by 7 man or less, its not a carry, that gets advertised.

    The point: account sharing.

    So with the T&C in mind, this service is not "perfectly valid".
    Quote Originally Posted by TheLittlestLala View Post
    I've noticed that every single one of these things says "add on discord for info", which is basically code for "pay us real money".
    You aren't going to like the answer, but it all comes down to... Can you prove it?

    If you can't its basically assumption and slander, which isn't grounds for a report. Yeah, you are probably right, but if it takes place off of the game, and you cannot see transcripts of conversations talking about real money trading and account sharing then it has no weight in the argument.
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  5. #15
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    Nora_of_Mira's Avatar
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    Nora Origo
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I agree with the notion that it should be banned simply on the basis that discussing terms outside of the game is opening up the potential for people to get scammed without any way of proving it.
    thats true about literally anything, though. Square cannot be responsible for peoples actions outside of their game so Square cannot do anything but act on reports of players breaking rules inside of game.

    And OP is just complaining about the annoyance of the ads. I also hate ads and install several adblockers on any device I can. however, banning a PF for being annoying is kind of overreacting. Its better to just deal with it and move on.
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  6. #16
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    Saidosha's Avatar
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    Weissening Blitz
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I'd probably shoot for 2 things.

    1) An option to hide an unwanted PF listing from a player that lasts 24 hours. Hidden PFs are moved to a unique tab and won't show on All or their chosen section.
    2) Referencing any outside app/program or site within the objective text be further prohibited.
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  7. #17
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    Luke Lightbringer
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    You aren't going to like the answer, but it all comes down to... Can you prove it?

    If you can't its basically assumption and slander, which isn't grounds for a report. Yeah, you are probably right, but if it takes place off of the game, and you cannot see transcripts of conversations talking about real money trading and account sharing then it has no weight in the argument.
    I think that’s part of the problem, demanding payment terms be discussed over discord should be enough to qualify as suspicious behavior.
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  8. #18
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
    I think that’s part of the problem, demanding payment terms be discussed over discord should be enough to qualify as suspicious behavior.
    Thats a dangerous precident to set. Nothing about asking to talk on discord is directly incriminating. There are many reasons why a player may do this, the use of voice chat and ease of communication between a large group of people being two of those reasons. It is only suspicious behavior if you create a narrative that it is suspicious, which SE rightfully don't do. Should we treat requiring people to use discord in savage PFs as a problem too because there is no way to transcribe the communication?
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  9. #19
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    Krystal Abyss
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    Mateus
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    While I know nothing can be done, what I don't like is how clogged PF is with people miscategorizing with roulette. Especially when I want to use it legitimately.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Should we treat requiring people to use discord in savage PFs as a problem too because there is no way to transcribe the communication?
    Would be nice if they put their ads in the proper category for one.

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    Last edited by Gula; 09-04-2019 at 10:39 PM. Reason: images are hard
    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

  10. #20
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    Zheri Starcaller
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    Brynhildr
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Saidosha View Post
    I'd probably shoot for 2 things.

    2) Referencing any outside app/program or site within the objective text be further prohibited.
    I get what you're going for, but if I'm recruiting for a PUG or to fill a static, I want to make sure that any potential applicant knows they're expected to be active on Discord. Additionally, the RMT'ers will just tell whomever they're selling to to move the discussion to a 3rd party program. This particular solution inconveniences legitimate PF groups while not actually solving any problems.
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