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  1. #1
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    Brandedblade's Avatar
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    Gunther Frey
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    You mean the point that wouldn't have been a thing had they not done this rather controversial change in the first place?

    You're talking like we're only "mad" because we're displeased with the changes because there is now a new vs old, two camps essentially. There didn't need to be a second camp in the first place.
    If the old card system was in place, there would be people complaining about the rng or the fact that there's one card that's been mathed out to he the next card. There will always be two camps, the one that likes the new and one that does not. No matter what they do there will be someome who likes it and someone who doesn't.
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    If the old card system was in place, there would be people complaining about the rng or the fact that there's one card that's been mathed out to he the next card. There will always be two camps, the one that likes the new and one that does not. No matter what they do there will be someome who likes it and someone who doesn't.
    No one is saying it was perfect. Literally all that needed to be done was modify Spire and Balance really. "This" card system didn't need to happen. The old system didn't need to be as gutted as it was for a system people who didn't even really play AST seem to like (and if they did play AST and hate it then ???).

    See here's the thing. They didn't have to do something because in case you haven't noticed AST popularity seems to have tanked quite a bit, unless I am mistaken. Drop the whole "no matter what X does, Y will be angry" stuff. AST didn't deserve this because guess what? There's 2 other healers for the people who didn't like AST before to play. Maybe one of them could suit them.

    I really don't seem to be seeing sunshines and rainbows with the current AST, nor do a lot of other people if you've been keeping up with the community.
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    No one is saying it was perfect. Literally all that needed to be done was modify Spire and Balance really. "This" card system didn't need to happen. The old system didn't need to be as gutted as it was for a system people who didn't even really play AST seem to like (and if they did play AST and hate it then ???).

    See here's the thing. They didn't have to do something because in case you haven't noticed AST popularity seems to have tanked quite a bit, unless I am mistaken. Drop the whole "no matter what X does, Y will be angry" stuff. AST didn't deserve this because guess what? There's 2 other healers for the people who didn't like AST before to play. Maybe one of them could suit them.

    I really don't seem to be seeing sunshines and rainbows with the current AST, nor do a lot of other people if you've been keeping up with the community.
    Balance could've been changed to direct hit, Spire to idk, bonus HP/movement speed/received healing/whatever, and keep the seals idea to proc Divination [but get rid of the stupid melee/ranged separation]. Old cards are back, the seals stay, there, best of both worlds.
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    Miziliti's Avatar
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    Tezu Silvin
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    Leviathan
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    If the old card system was in place, there would be people complaining about the rng or the fact that there's one card that's been mathed out to he the next card. There will always be two camps, the one that likes the new and one that does not. No matter what they do there will be someome who likes it and someone who doesn't.
    If by definition old card system is such huge failure because there were complaints, then the new card system would be a catastrophe a billion times worse because even the players that tolerated old card system is abandoning ship.

    The "someone who doesn't" are obviously the majority here.

    Imagine the product you've been using for a long time (StB AST) got a new version that has nothing you liked from the original one you have (ShB AST), so you instead have to buy from other brand (WHM/SCH).

    If devs are counting on "new incoming players" to like new AST without any idea how original AST worked, chances are another StB MCH will be born.
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