We need an ilvl/gear requirement for leveling dungeons

[Brightamethyst]

What I don't get is why (if they're so afraid new players will get roadblocked), at the very, very least leveling dungeons can't have an ilv requirement equal to the last MSQ dungeon.

They're not afraid of new players getting roadblocked. They afraid of running into the same issues we currently have with alliance and 50/60/70 roulette. Where people take off half their gear before queuing to up force a faster and easier lower level dungeon.

They definitely need to address the issue of people going into leveling dungeons vastly undergeared, but simply tacking on an ilevel requirement isn't ideal.

[SerLuke]

They're not afraid of new players getting roadblocked. They afraid of running into the same issues we currently have with alliance and 50/60/70 roulette. Where people take off half their gear before queuing to up force a faster and easier lower level dungeon.

They definitely need to address the issue of people going into leveling dungeons vastly undergeared, but simply tacking on an ilevel requirement isn't ideal.

I don’t think they would do that, they might get Aurum Vale

[SerLuke]

What they could do to fix the problem with roulettes(alliance or otherwise) is they could make it so like for example if you are lvl 61 you have to be i250 or so to be able to que for roulletes if they don’t meet that they can either que up specifically for lower lvl duties or run deep dungeon to get some poetics to get better gear.

[Liam_Harper]

I'd burn that bridge when we come to it. Most of us loathe getting Satasha and the idea of running current content dungeons with a correctly geared group sounds far more appealing.

There's also the WoW system which has both an equipped ilv and "average ilv", average ilv taking into account the highest ilv usable pieces for your class in your bag, bank or on your character. Basically meaning if you were ilv400 and took your gear off, you'd be average ilv400. I'm aware their item storage runs on spaghetti code compared to other games, but if necessary it would only need to check once when you queue.

[DenzelVilliers]

Yesterday i got a Toxic Tank in Malikah's Well ( Lv77/79 Dungeon ) with Lv58/60 Equips, with 2 Equips slots empty blaming the healer for his death against 1 Hit K.O damage and me for Stealing his Aggro by DPSing too much as a RDM.

So after that i did a test and you can literally register in any leveling Dungeon using only your Weapon as equipment. This must be fixed right now.

[MariaArvana]

They're not afraid of new players getting roadblocked. They afraid of running into the same issues we currently have with alliance and 50/60/70 roulette. Where people take off half their gear before queuing to up force a faster and easier lower level dungeon.

They definitely need to address the issue of people going into leveling dungeons vastly undergeared, but simply tacking on an ilevel requirement isn't ideal.

Extremely simple solution. Make it so to queue for leveling roulette you need to meet the ilvl of the highest level dungeon you have available on your current job. Done, no cheesing possible.
Same fix could easily also be implemented into trials, alliance, etc.

[SenorPatty]

Sirensong Sea, and Doma Castle were such hot zones for people with low ilvls in SB when it first came out that I found myself gear checking all the time whenever I landed in one of those dgns. Sirensong was famous for people wearing lots of i180-200 gear. Doma had too many people wearing more i230 and lower gear on their chr with a smaller amount of relevant gear. At least ShB dgns don't hit as hard as when the SB dgns came out and the gearing is better but holy cripes man...

And you know what really took the cake? Getting these responses:

"It's fine. Don't be such an elitist" Says the whm who dies at full shared stack marker from first boss

"I'm i253. Mind your own effing business" says the drg wearing an i180 weapon.

"Just heal me" Says the tank who barely survives a single monster pack and then gets the great idea to mass pull.


It's sort of the reason why, after learning about what SE's gonna do with min ilvl requirements, I stopped also arguing with people on the forums about it. Can't wait for the system to come so it can shut everyone up on both sides and we can all have peace of mind.

[Rilifane]

They're not afraid of new players getting roadblocked. They afraid of running into the same issues we currently have with alliance and 50/60/70 roulette. Where people take off half their gear before queuing to up force a faster and easier lower level dungeon.

They definitely need to address the issue of people going into leveling dungeons vastly undergeared, but simply tacking on an ilevel requirement isn't ideal.

Most people abhor getting dungeons signifcantly lower than their own level, so I'm honestly not too worried about that.
Alliance roulette is a different thing because you can have a Syrcus/ LotA cheese run in 20min by lowering your ilvl compared to hour long wipe sessions followed by abandoned duty in Orbonne etc. The differences between leveling dungeons are minimal compared to that.

Even so, one problem after another.
If people lower their ilvl, block them from queuing until they equiped the min ilvl for the highest available duty this class has unlocked. Problem solved.

[Paladinleeds]

Most people abhor getting dungeons signifcantly lower than their own level, so I'm honestly not too worried about that.
Alliance roulette is a different thing because you can have a Syrcus/ LotA cheese run in 20min by lowering your ilvl compared to hour long wipe sessions followed by abandoned duty in Orbonne etc. The differences between leveling dungeons are minimal compared to that.

Even so, one problem after another.
If people lower their ilvl, block them from queuing until they equiped the min ilvl for the highest available duty this class has unlocked. Problem solved.

I would apply it to ALL roulettes too. Level 50/60/70, trials, alliance raid, normal raid. And I would also look into making it favour duties closer to your level (a higher weighting, so you're more LIKELY to get a higher level duty, but not guaranteed, you might still queue pre-made and still roll the Sastasha dice). Only exception I would add is lifting itemlevel and role restrictions for FULLY PREMADE groups. That way if you and your pre-made group want to push yourself in an undergeared duty, go right ahead. But non fully premade groups can expect a fair gearing.

[TheForce]

Very true the other day I was running The Sirensong Sea with a Gunbreaker(who had 5 jobs at 80 including the other tanks...)who was missing a belt, two rings, a bracelet, and a necklace. Was so hard on my healer friend =(

Having multiple jobs leveled does not equal being skilled/knowing what you're doing. And vice versa. This misconception needs to die.