Were trusts intended to be usable for goetia/phantasmagoria farming?

[Duskane]

They can just automate the trust NPCs to level cap over the course of a day if they feel like it.

it would still take a hell of a long time to get it all set up
they probably rather make money else where during that time

[Kleeya]

Except the market for tome mats being flooded and crashing.

Imo the two more lilely reasons for that are:

- the novelty of the savage raids is gone, players doing them are now in 370 stuff instead of getting crafted one, and people not doing them are getting 360/normal Eden stuff instead because they dont care about being pentamelded ;

- you get way more tomes with A ranks ShB trains. When it takes one hundred players one hour top to kill 36 hunt targets, 2 or 3 times in a row thanks to the world visit, it makes the idea of getting tomes by boting with the trust system laughable.

Anyway the best time to make gils by reselling tomes mats have always been when they are new. The market is always crashing a bit later.

[KageTokage]

I think the prices on tomestone mats will likely increase when 5.1 drops and the new DoL/H stuff arrives.

The people I've observed doing this are doing it to avoid having to spend money on the mats as opposed to intending to profit off them, though, as they either craft themselves regularly or are related to people who do. I don't think there'll ever be enough of a shortage on the mats for trying to sell them for profit to be very worthwhile so it is pretty low impact overall, but still a bit annoying.

Yet again, this is the kind of problem that would be best resolved by the enforcement teams just being competent enough to recognize/ban offenders.

[Liam_Harper]

Tome mats always crash. They're crashing now because we have hunt trains that give 200 people up to 720 goetia in one go. We had 4 of these hunt trains on our datacentre only yesterday. I agree with bots being an issue, but not every price crash is bot related.

[Noitems]

I think the bots are more focused on doing their Ampador Keep speedruns then worrying about Goetia farming.

[Raven2014]

There's someone on my server who's brought three alt accounts through both HW and SB so far just for that purpose and is working on it for ShB now.

You always see claim like this brought up in thread like this. If you are so sure about this, report them for botting activities.

[LaylaTsarra]

After leveling my trust I hope to be able to get tomes for running an 80 dungeon. TY

[Nixxe]

Except the market for tome mats being flooded and crashing. Also in this scenario, a single bot takes up 1 instance spot. There are already problems with parties of 4 bots clogging instance servers, when they all start running solo with trusts the load will multiply by 4.

I'm looking at the MB right now and the price is exactly what I'd expect based off of past rounds of tomestone materials. If you don't like the price, petition SE to incorporate them into more useful recipes so that there's actually some reason for people to buy the items they make aside from Savage raiders rounding out their gear very early on.

[KageTokage]

After leveling my trust I hope to be able to get tomes for running an 80 dungeon. TY

It's not worth it unless you want to get the shoebill minion without any competition, IMO.

A hunt train is a lot more lucrative as you're getting both types of tomestones and materia out of it in less time and a busy server will have multiple daily. The post maintenance S rank waves are even better.

Even after instances are gone hunts will still be the most efficient method of getting tomestones in terms of how much you earn for the time spent.

You always see claim like this brought up in thread like this. If you are so sure about this, report them for botting activities.

Oh, believe me, I did. Several times. Both the main account (Who also bots regularly) and his alts since the HW days, but all of them are still around.

The alts have traditionally been used almost entirely for scrip farming and mostly seem to exist to just give the main account (And likely associates) an endless supply of DoL/H materia. The fact that they're also being used to horde large houses makes me feel like something scummier might be going on, though...

[Raltar]

Except the market for tome mats being flooded and crashing.

Who cares?