Ninjutsu, lackluster?

[Siete]

It's because you're really not dealing with the full kit of Ninjutsu. at that level
Fuma is mainly used in TCJ as your first jutsu since the potency increased. In the earlier days you would use it more often since going into Raiton would be clipping a GCD.

Raiton is still used frequently so it's not outshined.

Hyoton is pretty pointless which is why at 76 they upgraded when used under Kassatsu and it's the most damaging jutsu out of the toolkit.

Katon offers the base potency, but pending on how many mobs there are it would make more sense to doton. Don't know math off hand but the server ticks for damage would take over Katon's base damage pretty overtime. Though in most pulls you generally will have two jutsus good to go after using hide so you can just doton then katon. Katon does get upgraded at 76 which does shift the balance so it's something to look forward to.

But TCJ is a 100 sec cooldown it feels monotonous to play as a Gust Slash spammer.

[Noitems]

But TCJ is a 100 sec cooldown it feels monotonous to play as a Gust Slash spammer.

Be glad they made it free, before it used to cost 80 ninki as well.

[Siete]

Be glad they made it free, before it used to cost 80 ninki as well.

Ohboy
But I really wonder, every other class I played felt different and brought new tools to the gameplay and the basic rotation. Except Ninja, Ninja is purely long cooldowns and then you're back to rogue for 20 seconds and you're a Ninja for 1 second every 20 seconds until you get the 60-100-120 cooldowns again.

[CrashofZenki]

The only thing that is NIN for the Job is Ninjutsu and the Ninki abilities. Everything else is actually kits from THF. Even our weapons and Weaponskill names are from THF. Even our Trick Attack (Actual name for this effect is Sneak Attack from previous games.) Also is a Thief ability.

[ReiMakoto]

Ohboy
But I really wonder, every other class I played felt different and brought new tools to the gameplay and the basic rotation. Except Ninja, Ninja is purely long cooldowns and then you're back to rogue for 20 seconds and you're a Ninja for 1 second every 20 seconds until you get the 60-100-120 cooldowns again.

Youre only playing with a small toolkit of ninja currently at level 50, you have access to more ninja like abilities more frequently as you level up with more frequent ninjutsu uses now that kassatsu is only a 60s cooldown, with Bhavacakra coming up fairly frequently. Also Ninjutsu every 20s maximum isn't actually that bad when you compare to like dragoon which only jumps every 30

[Siete]

Youre only playing with a small toolkit of ninja currently at level 50, you have access to more ninja like abilities more frequently as you level up with more frequent ninjutsu uses now that kassatsu is only a 60s cooldown, with Bhavacakra coming up fairly frequently. Also Ninjutsu every 20s maximum isn't actually that bad when you compare to like dragoon which only jumps every 30

But I've seen the rest of the toolkit, all long CDs.
DRG has Rip and Tear and Fang and Claw every 5 secs apart from the jumps, tho?

[ReiMakoto]

But I've seen the rest of the toolkit, all long CDs.
DRG has Rip and Tear and Fang and Claw every 5 secs apart from the jumps, tho?

I dunno what you mean by rip and tear, but Fang and Claw and Wheeling thrust can only be done after 3 gcds, theyre just regular combo skills. Im just struggling to understand your argument when ninjas ninjustsu is very commonly used (every 20s, or less thanks to TCJ and Kassatsu) and as well as commonly used Bhava which is a ninja like move. All Jobs have long cooldowns on their shit, not just ninja

[Rayo]

But I've seen the rest of the toolkit, all long CDs.
DRG has Rip and Tear and Fang and Claw every 5 secs apart from the jumps, tho?

1st off: NIN's Extra Mudra abilities also act as Mudra resets, so you can skip the cooldown by using said skills, a feature I don't think much jobs have

2nd: DRG's Fang and Claw is a Combo ender that can only be used after your 3rd or 4th combo action. Also by that logic NIN's Armor Crush is a NIN action which means you'll be using a NIN action every few seconds

3rd: Seeing/knowing a toolkit and using the toolkit are two very different things

4th: DRG's Rip and Tear? isn't that GNB stuff

[Siete]

1st off: NIN's Extra Mudra abilities also act as Mudra resets, so you can skip the cooldown by using said skills, a feature I don't think much jobs have

2nd: DRG's Fang and Claw is a Combo ender that can only be used after your 3rd or 4th combo action. Also by that logic NIN's Armor Crush is a NIN action which means you'll be using a NIN action every few seconds

3rd: Seeing/knowing a toolkit and using the toolkit are two very different things

4th: DRG's Rip and Tear? isn't that GNB stuff

Got the name's wrong, influenced by one of Doom's best OST name.

[Noitems]

Ohboy
But I really wonder, every other class I played felt different and brought new tools to the gameplay and the basic rotation. Except Ninja, Ninja is purely long cooldowns and then you're back to rogue for 20 seconds and you're a Ninja for 1 second every 20 seconds until you get the 60-100-120 cooldowns again.

You would be surprised. I'm not a Ninja main persay so I'm sorry if what I say verbally hurts Nin mains. But lets say you're doing a dungeon pull, you'll already have hyo set up, hide and refresh for ninjutsu, most likely use doton after. You still got two charges of Kassatu so you'll blow through both for two Goka, (which should realistically be like 3 seconds per jutsu).Then go into TCJ-Fuma-Ka-Sui, then you'd mesui to get back some ninki. , then you'll aoe combo into getting hellfrog or you may already have it by now.

During that time you'll get back your ninjutsu's pretty quick since the cooldown is generally around 2 seconds for each and TCJ/Kassatsu are gradually going down too.