Bard

[Coglin]

So I guess you've never played Final Fantasy XI.

I did. Not long. I was in Japan pon its release and played it untill about 3 months after the NA release. I did not recall if bards were incapable of using a bow at all in the game. To be honest though, FFXI is the exception and not the rule.

[Spider-Dan]

FFXI is the only other FF MMO in existence. I wouldn't exactly call it the "exception" when talking about expectations in FFXIV.

[syntaxlies]

FFXI is the only other FF MMO in existence. I wouldn't exactly call it the "exception" when talking about expectations in FFXIV.

its the exception in games in general, not just out of the 2 FF mmo's is what he meant

[Spider-Dan]

Well, this is a FF MMO, so when talking about the expectations of what BRD should be doing, FFXI is much more relevant than, say, Dark Age of Camelot.

I'm not saying that I personally have a problem with Bardcher (I don't really care either way), but the people who object to that combination have a valid point, I think.

[Riffy]

It is a valid point, but these dudes don't care~ they want their buffs!

Will be interesting to see how this comes into fruition from DD to support/DD.

Oh and since we're talking about other games, an arcane archer would have been nice

[knite23]

i dont think its a valid point at all. only people that QQ is the damage hungry, it would be cool to be an archer and say i did the most damage scrubs. the rest of us real archers don't care the game created our role and we are goin to make it godly and not QQ about it and the other half just don't like the thought of looking like a fairy. plus as for the rest of us that have been here since beta can tell the people that QQ will just jump to the next top dd Class anyway so QQing about archer going to bard is irrelevant thats transition has been in the works for months and will not change so less QQ more talking about the actual job

[elreed]

i really hope that songs last for 7min at least right now 4 min is nothing taking for example the speed buff archer has at the moment especially for fights like the ifrit one where you need to run all the time and loose a lot of dmg opportunities

[elreed]

well reading a few more post they need to do 2 things to bardcher, one is to make the buff songs last longer 7minutes minimum so you can focus on dmg too, second is to give a boost in the damage to archer, right now it does a lot of damage but you have to spend gil to buy arrows, other jobs only need to repair and they're rdy to go, so in my oppinion is not fair that you have to spend gil or level up carpenter to keep up with others melees, at the beginning the dmg archer did was a lot higher than other melees and it was fair because every time you had to go out and fight something you had to spend gil to be ready.

So i hope they check that and give archers or bardchers a good reason to go out and play that role.

[Rubicon]

Concerning ARC/BRD and Yoshida's comments about spells being interrupted by movement... Can ARCs run and shoot? If so, does this not make them OP in regard to mages not being able to run and cast? I'm thinking of PvP but also kiting in Moogle or other battles. Disregard this if ARCs cannot run and shoot but if they can, what will balance them out in PvP?

[Yelta_Sumasu]

Curious, why 7 minutes? I agree that buffs don't last long enough in this game but why specifically 7?