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    Zfz's Avatar
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Same here. The tank deaths I observe in the daily expert roulette generally happen when the healer is letting the tank dip down to dangerously low health then healing the tank back to full. Healers that keep healing the tank consistently usually recover quickly when something bad happens (such as tank not using CDs or DPS just too bad and drawing out the fight).

    When I heal, I prefer to heal as soon as I won't be doing overhealing. I try not to let the tank dip lower than that. Sometimes I'd delay a heal for 2-3 seconds for my lily to come up, or for an ability cooldown to finish, but that's about it. IMO consistency in healing is as important to the tank as consistency in damage taken is to the healer.

    If healers are asking tanks to rotate cooldowns for a more consistent damage intake, then an effort should be made to achieve a more consistent incoming healing for the tanks.

    I mean, it's not like healers have dps comboes that break when you heal, right? When the tank is missing enough health for you to not have overheal, healing it now is better than healing it later. Healers who let the tank dip lower just to squeeze in another dps spell cast, is the same thing as DPS who take damage from telegraphed AOEs just to squeeze in another dps spell/skill.
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    Cassius Rex
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    Same here. The tank deaths I observe in the daily expert roulette generally happen when the healer is letting the tank dip down to dangerously low health then healing the tank back to full. Healers that keep healing the tank consistently usually recover quickly when something bad happens (such as tank not using CDs or DPS just too bad and drawing out the fight).
    I have been running into an inordinate number of DPS lately that can't kill trash in a timely manner. More than a few times I've run dry on CDs and just had to hope the healer could keep me alive until something (normally TBN) comes back off cooldown. Did a whole bunch of people just buy skips and never bother learning how to use their job or something?
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    Agito Kaguya
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    I have been running into an inordinate number of DPS lately that can't kill trash in a timely manner. More than a few times I've run dry on CDs and just had to hope the healer could keep me alive until something (normally TBN) comes back off cooldown. Did a whole bunch of people just buy skips and never bother learning how to use their job or something?
    Some DPS simply refuse to use AOE Skills. Quite a few times I have encountered this and everytime I told them that it's more efficient to use AOE skills when they are 3+ targets. In the end they are just ignoring me. The feels when there is like 6+ targets and the dragoon is just spamming Chaos Thrust/Full Thrust ...
    It's like some ppl don't even know they have an aoe rotation and they just don't put the skill in their bars. Sad.
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    Dark Knight Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by AgitoKaguya View Post
    Some DPS simply refuse to use AOE Skills. Quite a few times I have encountered this and everytime I told them that it's more efficient to use AOE skills when they are 3+ targets. In the end they are just ignoring me. The feels when there is like 6+ targets and the dragoon is just spamming Chaos Thrust/Full Thrust ...
    It's like some ppl don't even know they have an aoe rotation and they just don't put the skill in their bars. Sad.
    I believe the damage falloffs after the first target is what discouraged most of them from using AOEs.
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    Izsha Azel
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    I believe the damage falloffs after the first target is what discouraged most of them from using AOEs.
    TLDR: People cant math. Virtually every AOE in the game wins at 3 targets. Some win at 2 for crying out loud. Read. Tooltips. But those people cant read tooltips. They arent here reading this. So....what are we doing here again?
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