Dots and SkS/SpS

[xxvaynxx]

This is more likely uptime problem than skill speed.

Same as above.

I usually Higanbana after the puddles drop to minimize dot clipping

I don't pot at that moment but I can still midare just fine before the puddles drop just before underseaquake finished casting.

1. No, it's sks. But could be clipping somewhere as well. Because sometimes I'm ahead in gcd, other times I'm not.

2. I do it after puddles drop as well but it's better to do it before if you can to gain more gcd, which is possible with more sks to do it more comfortably.

3. You should pot there. It's when your ST guren is up which is the stronger part of your reopener.
Gonna assume you do it after second mal?

[mosaicex]

1. No, it's sks. But could be clipping somewhere as well. Because sometimes I'm ahead in gcd, other times I'm not.

2. I do it after puddles drop as well but it's better to do it before if you can to gain more gcd, which is possible with more sks to do it more comfortably.

3. You should pot there. It's when your ST guren is up which is the stronger part of your reopener.
Gonna assume you do it after second mal?

1. I'm sure it's not. Maybe we're doing stuff in different order but I'll upload a clip later to show you that you can comfortably midare before second maelstrom
3. I pot a bit after Stormy Horizon, after both Temporary Current, it catches pre-Higan Midare, Higanbana, Senei, and 2x Midare after.

Edit: Here it is, https://streamable.com/yxolp

As for whether you're ahead in CD or not, I think this is more of an encounter thing, kinda like fast/slow enrage in E4S. I noticed this happened to me sometimes too.

[xxvaynxx]

1. I'm sure it's not. Maybe we're doing stuff in different order but I'll upload a clip later to show you that you can comfortably midare before second maelstrom
3. I pot a bit after Stormy Horizon, after both Temporary Current, it catches pre-Higan Midare, Higanbana, Senei, and 2x Midare after.

Edit: Here it is, https://streamable.com/yxolp

As for whether you're ahead in CD or not, I think this is more of an encounter thing, kinda like fast/slow enrage in E4S. I noticed this happened to me sometimes too.

Hmm Odd. Not sure how you got to that point of the rotation so quickly. Where you did your bana, I normally doing it as the puddles is about to drop. (not the aoe in the middle)
if I had to guess, maybe you're closer to him after malstorm 1 or something.

*Edit*
Oh you know what it is, I think I'm doing double yuki more than you are. I took a peek at your logs and I did 47 yuki and you only did 40.
its because you're slower than I am so you're able to just flow through your rotation.
HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO PLAY THAT SLOW SAM, its painful XD

[mosaicex]

its because you're slower than I am so you're able to just flow through your rotation.
HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO PLAY THAT SLOW SAM, its painful XD

Well, that's kinda my point. You can do just fine with 28 GCDs rotation, you can do just fine with 30 GCDs rotation.
In fact, I'm sure the 30 GCDs rotation is the reason why 5.05 Hagakure is so weak, because otherwise it'd just be outright better than 28 GCDs one due to extra GCDs and even more Kenki.

It's a matter of taste at this point. I chose to go with 28 because it's easier to gear up for me.

[xxvaynxx]

Well, that's kinda my point. You can do just fine with 28 GCDs rotation, you can do just fine with 30 GCDs rotation.
In fact, I'm sure the 30 GCDs rotation is the reason why 5.05 Hagakure is so weak, because otherwise it'd just be outright better than 28 GCDs one due to extra GCDs and even more Kenki.

It's a matter of taste at this point. I chose to go with 28 because it's easier to gear up for me.

You you proven me wrong in that case. Though I think being faster is still stronger than being slower imo.
Comparing our logs I did more dps than you and I don't have my 475 wep yet, though I did clear it about 10secs faster.

[xxvaynxx]

Well, that's kinda my point. You can do just fine with 28 GCDs rotation, you can do just fine with 30 GCDs rotation.
In fact, I'm sure the 30 GCDs rotation is the reason why 5.05 Hagakure is so weak, because otherwise it'd just be outright better than 28 GCDs one due to extra GCDs and even more Kenki.

It's a matter of taste at this point. I chose to go with 28 because it's easier to gear up for me.

Yeah you proven me wrong in that case. Though I think being faster is still stronger than being slower imo.
Comparing our logs I did more dps than you and I don't have my 475 wep yet, though not by much.
Its most likely me DH'ing more and stuff, you got a orange so at that point its mostly just lucky crts and DH.

[mosaicex]

Yeah you proven me wrong in that case. Though I think being faster is still stronger than being slower imo.
Comparing our logs I did more dps than you and I don't have my 475 wep yet, though not by much.

Yet your Midare were about 9% stronger than mine on average (apparently I also accidentally Tenka'd once, that one was solely on me).

I'm not saying skill speed built is weaker by any mean (raw potency-wise skill speed build is just better due to extra gcds and 25 extra kenki per cycle), but I think in this case you managed to edge out on me due to variance from crit, not skill speed (and like you said, your fight also ended 10 secs faster).

[xxvaynxx]

Yet your Midare were about 9% stronger than mine on average (apparently I also accidentally Tenka'd once, that one was solely on me).

I'm not saying skill speed built is weaker by any mean (raw potency-wise skill speed build is just better due to extra gcds and 25 extra kenki per cycle), but I think in this case you managed to edge out on me due to variance from crit, not skill speed (and like you said, your fight also ended 10 secs faster).

Yeah just lucky crts. Think if you get orange, at that point its just how fast you clear and crts/dh.
((didn't mean to offend if I did, didn't want to sound as if I was better skill wise.))

Also with the tenka, I do that too sometimes LOL. I sometimes think I already have 3 sen so I just use it without paying attention. Glad I'm not the only one XD

[Shurrikhan]

Yet your Midare were about 9% stronger than mine on average (apparently I also accidentally Tenka'd once, that one was solely on me).

I'm not saying skill speed built is weaker by any mean (raw potency-wise skill speed build is just better due to extra gcds and 25 extra kenki per cycle), but I think in this case you managed to edge out on me due to variance from crit, not skill speed (and like you said, your fight also ended 10 secs faster).

I really hope SkS builds stand near enough an even chance on both MNK and SAM this expansion. Though I'd still need to see if I can get a SkS MNK build and SkS SAM build within a food's SkS of each other, which would probably be damn near impossible...