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  1. #341
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umsche View Post
    Having all dps classes do the same damage does not necessarily mean they're all the same, they can be all different in terms of gameplay but all equally viable.
    It does means you have to get rid of all their auxiliary tools, and not everyone's okay with that.
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  2. #342
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    Myon Miya
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    Tonberry
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zerathor View Post
    You just want your Mary Sue back to being the best prog, speedrun, and open world/solo job and pretending it's balance.
    Isn't that what this thread is about? Oh sorry I could've sworn you were talking about black mage for a second.
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  3. #343
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    Isn't that what this thread is about? Oh sorry I could've sworn you were talking about black mage for a second.
    When the prog actually mattered, Summoners still outnumbered Black Mages, just not by a 31:1 margin.
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  4. #344
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrashofZenki View Post
    Whatever they do with NIN, I just hope they dont touch our ogcd ninjutsu.. oof... Just the thought of it scares me. They already put so many nails in the coffin. GCD Ninjutsu gonna be the last nail to a dead class Imo. Probably great for casuals tho. Yay...
    I wager Mudras will either become like Dancer steps or Gunbreaker's Continuation. I actually like the latter idea myself. It would essentially be TCJ without the lost autos, immobility and etc. Buff Ninja's potencies and maybe slap Trick down to 5%. That would be a good straight to making it feel much better.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 08-24-2019 at 09:05 AM.
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  5. #345
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    TcomJ's Avatar
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    Genji Jouchi
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Umsche View Post
    Having all dps classes do the same damage does not necessarily mean they're all the same, they can be all different in terms of gameplay but all equally viable.
    No, that kind of collective mindset will destroy RPG which attracts players to play the genre through individualism.

    If you do that, nobody will play the hardest job like BLM and go for say DNC.MCH, Brd then.

    What kind of RPG is it that we don't want to have unique buff abilities, role interactions, combos etc. The most brain dead RPG is that what you guys want? That's the biggest oxymoron. RPG is not first shooter game dude.
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  6. #346
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    Aomine1992's Avatar
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TcomJ View Post
    No, that kind of collective mindset will destroy RPG which attracts players to play the genre through individualism.

    If you do that, nobody will play the hardest job like BLM and go for say DNC.MCH, Brd then.

    What kind of RPG is it that we don't want to have unique buff abilities, role interactions, combos etc. The most brain dead RPG is that what you guys want? That's the biggest oxymoron. RPG is not first shooter game dude.
    BLM is hard? That’s news to me lol
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  7. #347
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    Hardest BLM, er?
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  8. #348
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    Genji Jouchi
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miminming View Post
    Hardest BLM, er?
    Leylines man in savage raid?
    I guess since difficulties are subjective, we can overlook that and never take difficulties into consideration at all too either. Otherwise elitism will just ruin the job fantasy for a few anyway.
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  9. #349
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    Quote Originally Posted by TcomJ View Post
    Great...even more homogenization. That will totally make the game more fun like what happen right now....not!
    "Homogenization" really has just become a meaningless buzzword for people who want the flavor of the month classes to remain at the top forever huh.
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    Last edited by RadicalPesto; 08-24-2019 at 05:14 PM.

  10. #350
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalPesto View Post
    "Homogenization" really has just become a meaningless buzzword for people who want the flavor of the month classes to remain at the top forever huh.
    Would Warriors be complaining about the significantly buffed Inner Release v2 if that were the case? Would DRKs be complaining about copying said Inner Release into their Delirium? They're each optimally bursty, just absent of previously iconic and distinct mechanics. Their loss was gameplay, not performance, and yet both are/were scorned.
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