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    RoyalBeef's Avatar
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    Tiny Tina
    World
    Omega
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    For a lot of people, sure, I agree. Now I'd say aurum Vale isnt too bad, but I've also invested 3000 hours into this game and have progged ultimate fights as well as do savage content. But I remember my first run of bardams mettle, or Aurum Vale, shit was rough, I could barely keep up. I kept with it because I like a challenge though (clearly, right?) But not everyone does, and again, a lot of people only play this game for the story, which is completely fair, so locking the game away from them because they dont want to git gud hardly seems fair. Savage content is there for people who want to push themselves, normal content is meant to be for everyone, including the casuals.
    At some point we need some more gating tho. Ilevel requirements don't work at all, because you get "welfare" tomestone gear for trivial activities that is only slightly worse than top notch raid gear, and allows you to queue up for that endgame content. You could literally do MSQ roulette every day to hit level 80 with 450/460 gear, clear Eden by tanking the floor and having the other 7 ppl do it and then hop right into savage, wondering why people yell at you for doing 2k DPS.
    Of course normal story content shouldn't be gated, problem is high end stuff isn't really gated either. As soon as people are able to queue up for it,they will. Put in a solo duty with a Boss that doesn't really do much damage but has an enrage timer, so you need to hit X DPS in order to clear and unlock the next Ex/Savage or something.
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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalBeef View Post
    At some point we need some more gating tho. Ilevel requirements don't work at all, because you get "welfare" tomestone gear for trivial activities that is only slightly worse than top notch raid gear, and allows you to queue up for that endgame content. You could literally do MSQ roulette every day to hit level 80 with 450/460 gear, clear Eden by tanking the floor and having the other 7 ppl do it and then hop right into savage, wondering why people yell at you for doing 2k DPS.
    Of course normal story content shouldn't be gated, problem is high end stuff isn't really gated either. As soon as people are able to queue up for it,they will. Put in a solo duty with a Boss that doesn't really do much damage but has an enrage timer, so you need to hit X DPS in order to clear and unlock the next Ex/Savage or something.
    Some sort of requirement for savage I'm fine with, I've certainly seen people hop in there that arent ready for what savage entails, but normal content I think is fine as.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?