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    Shamsiel's Avatar
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    Sham Siel
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    In the old system, if two healer pieces dropped, then only healers could Need and chances were no one else could have gotten them. In the current system, everyone who took part in the fight has a chance of getting loot, and every piece of gear will go to use since the winner gets to decide which job to use it on. I get that it may be annoying if one person gets everything, but you can prevent this by creating your own group with your own rules (there also may be downsides to this, such as statics only gearing their DPS players first). But if you're going with the in game system, every single person has an equal chance for everything.
    old system old system old system.
    im talking about the new one, can you focus on that please?
    the old sytem was bad, we agreed on that, but the new one is not perfect by any means. my main and only issue is that if you clear the fight and 1 / 8 gets EVERYTHING its not fair for the other 7. by any measure thats not fair at all.
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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Maximum Powerful
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shamsiel View Post
    old system old system old system.
    im talking about the new one, can you focus on that please?
    the old sytem was bad, we agreed on that, but the new one is not perfect by any means. my main and only issue is that if you clear the fight and 1 / 8 gets EVERYTHING its not fair for the other 7. by any measure thats not fair at all.
    that's the way the cookie crumbles?

    old system - if everything was for your class and you were that only class you could get everything.
    new system - everything is for every class and your rolls are godly you can get everything.

    not really much difference.

    at least you still have a page.

    this is how extending content works. longevity. sure yoshi-p says take a break when you're done with stuff but if ppl expect to be fully geared out within 4 weeks of savage that's also bad.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shamsiel View Post
    old system old system old system.
    im talking about the new one, can you focus on that please?
    the old sytem was bad, we agreed on that, but the new one is not perfect by any means. my main and only issue is that if you clear the fight and 1 / 8 gets EVERYTHING its not fair for the other 7. by any measure thats not fair at all.
    RNG is RNG and it will never be "fair" - thats why the game has two safety nets in place:
    1) an alternative way to get gear by spending tomestones, a currency you're guaranteed to get
    2) an alternative way to get raid-gear by spending the pages you're guaranteed to get

    Yes, one person can get all 4 pieces of loot - but how likely is that? I'm asking because I'm to tired to do the math right now, so I'll just leave that out there: How likely is that one person outrolls 7 other people 4 times in a row?
    Even if you dont like people bringing up the old system: I bet you its way less likely than getting 4 drops that are absolutly useless to the group you're just in...

    Personally I think that the game has added a lot of ways to ensure that everyone can get their BiS-set eventually and a decent set more or less "straight away". Requests like this always make me wait for the day when someone asks "Hey, I queued for the current Savage and we started the fight, but wiped after 2 minutes and now I want a full Savage-set to drop right into my inventory because I attempted the fight and want my reward for that!"
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