Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
That's been my experience in WoW with add-ons like DBM.
In all fairness, I don't see that as so different from groups here with "must have seen to X" or "must have cleared" or "must watch video x/y"

In both cases, those 'requirements' exist largely because those running the group find it easier to manage when people do those things. Also, in both cases, if you don't like it, you're not required to join those groups, and can even make your own without said requirements.

I've led groups in WoW, and while I've never made it a requirement for people to have certain addons (outside of one that made managing loot easier for a regular raid team in WoW)...I've also found that 99.999% of people who have a problem with said addons tend to drag the whole group down. Exceptions exist, of course, but they are just that: exceptions.

I've also helped lead groups in this game, and repeatedly seen players who didn't have a clear yet cause problems (again, not always), and sometimes that's not what a group is going for.

Further, this may be selection bias to a degree, but I've noticed far more people interested in and doing high-end content since these addons have become mainstream in WoW, and have found it significantly faster to find people interested in high-end content there as well (still find people here, just takes a bit longer). It's arguable that this might be due to said addons making the content easier (or at least appear such) to unlock the idea of such to a wider base of people.