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  1. #11
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    M'leineya Leoh
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    Something needs to be done, just anything to stop the sniping and the amount of venom being spewed in shout every time an S rank is sniped. I'm losing friends in FFXIV who are being banned for retaliating and it's not their fault that they've been taunted for weeks even months often by players who flood in from other servers camping for S ranks and pull the second anyone else shows up and then blames us for not being there first as if they gave anybody else a chance. Quite seriously we're really sick and tired of it, it was bad enough when people were doing it on our own server but now it's gotten out of hand and many people are losing out at hunts because of selfish players. S rank hunting has become my least favourite part of the game because it's a breeding ground for selfish behaviour and toxicity, and when SE starts adding tokens for buying gear upgrades for tomestone gear it's going to get much much worse. This is only the surface being scratched. I'm all up for a mixture of level syncing hunt targets and either locking them so only people from that server can engage them or anyone not from that server gets no credit, since they can't shout out if an S rank is up in linkshells other than cross-realm ones so they got no reason to go around spawning S ranks on other servers.

    Edit: Right now heard in shout after an S rank caused instance transferring to get congested: hey the real thing is why dont you go back to your own servers so us phoenix players can actually go into our own maps without waiting 50 minutes
    Edit2: Another shout in regards to server locking hunts: write a suggestion to server lock the Hunt for more peace at Hunting
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    Last edited by geekgirl101; 07-24-2019 at 07:47 AM.
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  2. #12
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    Kemiko Oyung
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    It's merely courteous to do so, not a requirement. Announcing hunts isn't a requirement either. And S ranks have been soloable since ARR. If I went through the trouble to find or spawn a hunt and could solo it, I did. It was especially bad during hunt release when B ranks didn't respawn every minute.

    Making hunts tougher as things move forward, which they did, merely means you would need a sizeable party. Skilled players could get away with a Light Party if they didn't mind the time to whittle things down.

    Yeah, it can be frustrating if you rely on others to find or spawn hunts just to arrive and itd already dead just as its equally frustrating to spawn one yourself, be courteous and announce it so others have a shot to get rewards for your effort, only to wait 6 minutes for several servers of people, pull at the announced time and have several dozen people complaining about "early pulls".
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  3. #13
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    M'leineya Leoh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemiko View Post
    Yeah, it can be frustrating if you rely on others to find or spawn hunts just to arrive and itd already dead just as its equally frustrating to spawn one yourself, be courteous and announce it so others have a shot to get rewards for your effort, only to wait 6 minutes for several servers of people, pull at the announced time and have several dozen people complaining about "early pulls".
    This is why we could maybe benefit with a world notification of large FATEs and S ranks spawning and not just localized to that zone so people don't get let down by late callers? However it's a question of whether having a world wide announcement whilst hunt marks are in their current state would encourage more sniping and cause even more toxicity. There's only 1 game I know of that had this but the boss difficulty was very high to encourage teamworking and scaled players down so it wasn't melted in seconds.
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    Last edited by geekgirl101; 07-24-2019 at 05:59 AM.
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    Calista Fallon
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    Since you will never change people's selfishness, I'd suggest a world wide notification on special large Fates, S and A ranks with a five minute timer before the boss can be attacked. This notification could be enabled/disabled in the hunt tab per player choice.
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  5. #15
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    M'leineya Leoh
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    Once more another hunt mark is swiped from under our noses by 1 person. This person is infamous for upsetting other players at ARR S ranks and is well known for jumping in before anyone else, but he also plays the ToS card to justify that he's not doing anything wrong and takes great joy in trolling people who respond to his behaviour. Just how many more players are going to suffer at the expense of 1 person SE? We are honestly tired of people like this guy playing his hand to cause disruption and provoking others into a reaction that can result in them receiving temporary or even permanent bans, but surely when there's more than one player reacting in anger against one person then the issue isn't in the way they respond but the player responsible for causing such distress in the first place? So many people detest the way this person conducts themselves but are too afraid to speak up in case they get banned since he deliberately provokes anger in others. I cannot imagine anyone remaining cool and content in the constant presence of acts of maliciousness and greed, even NPCs in the game respond angrily and profanely at times where there is injustice and seek to put an end to it. A line needs to be drawn between what is acceptable and what isn't to avoid disruption, and it only takes one person to ruin the game experience for everyone and to sow the seeds of toxicity.
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    Last edited by geekgirl101; 08-08-2019 at 02:41 AM.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Yeah...

    This whole situation with the ARR S ranks is getting really frustrating when I'm burning my time and resources to spawn stuff, only to have it nearly dead before I can even find it by a bunch of randoms who happened to be in zone.

    There would be no harm in drastically increasing the HP on ARR S ranks. All it would do encourage people to round up others to take them on instead of trying to solo them. At this point it's not really reasonable to expect people to be trying to kill hunts at the appropriate level.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 08-17-2019 at 11:26 PM.

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    Calista Fallon
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    The 2 Hs SE constantly ignores: Hunts and Housing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    The 2 Hs SE constantly ignores: Hunts and Housing
    Housing is not ignored, see competition entries added in game. They just cant magic community made problems away.
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    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Vyncent Nolan
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    Just how many more players are going to suffer at the expense of 1 person SE?
    That's up to those players. They could act like normal people and move on. Where is it written they have to get every hunt that's open while they're online?

    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    We are honestly tired of people like this guy playing his hand to cause disruption and provoking others into a reaction that can result in them receiving temporary or even permanent bans,
    If only those players were in a position to do something about that, like not respond.

    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    but surely when there's more than one player reacting in anger against one person then the issue isn't in the way they respond but the player responsible for causing such distress in the first place?
    No, that's mob mentality and it doesn't make them right.

    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    A line needs to be drawn between what is acceptable and what isn't to avoid disruption, and it only takes one person to ruin the game experience for everyone and to sow the seeds of toxicity.
    There already is one. Pulling hunts with the intent to grief or resetting them is not allowed. There is no such thing as early pulling or sniping.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Housing is not ignored, see competition entries added in game. They just cant magic community made problems away.
    They could, very easily by changing how hunts work but they're too stubborn to. They'd rather have players at each other's throats and using cheats than admit they designed poor content (Diadem, Diadem 2, Eureka and coming soon, Diadem 3)
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  10. #20
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    Calista Fallon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Housing is not ignored, see competition entries added in game. They just cant magic community made problems away.
    Nice try and fail Gula, pinnochios told to SE players since 2013. They try to placate with more wards that give a whopping 30/1000s of people needing a house (if they are not slum-lorded up by a couple of players), then turn a blind eye for another year or 2. Housing needs to be revamped period. Start with new instanced non-neighborhood houses that can be eventually migrated over to by new and old players.
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