Please Yoshi, do something about old hunts!

[geekgirl101]

This has been expected for a long time and the insistent refusal to make any change to older hunts has now led to this - ARR targets being killed less than 30 seconds after announcing they're up and only taking 2-3 seconds to die at the hands of 100 players all level 80, some don't even bother to announce they're up and just kill them solo because they can. The level of toxicity at S hunts is so bad that it's smearing all over the game and making it a horrible experience to do anything with other players.

[Besame]

This has been expected for a long time and the insistent refusal to make any change to older hunts has now led to this - ARR targets being killed less than 30 seconds after announcing they're up and only taking 2-3 seconds to die at the hands of 100 players all level 80, some don't even bother to announce they're up and just kill them solo because they can. The level of toxicity at S hunts is so bad that it's smearing all over the game and making it a horrible experience to do anything with other players.

I have given up on them and now subject myself to an equally horrific experience: The Shadow A train with 100+ members due to X-world ppl, invisible and untargetable bosses and 3 instances to deal with.

[Laphael]

I have given up on them and now subject myself to an equally horrific experience: The Shadow A train with 100+ members due to X-world ppl, invisible and untargetable bosses and 3 instances to deal with.

I´m glad that im not the only one who finds that train horrible.

[geekgirl101]

What's worse is there are players from other realms using cross-world linkshells and discord servers linked with XIV-Hunt and other data-mine trackers actively stalking people spawning S ranks and getting times of their deaths, then showing up in full force to camp and kill the S ranks without informing anyone native to that realm! They're notorious also for early pulling S ranks early and as soon as native players start showing up. They do this around the clock that for many it's not worth chasing after S ranks because they have no idea if it's dead or not or it dies long before they can even teleport to the zone it's in. It's game breaking and should be considered as griefing and harassment because they're exploiting a system to deliberately hurt realms other than their own and want exclusive rights to spawn and kill all S ranks across their data center.

Earlier this morning I was at an S rank on Phoenix and asked who spawned it, someone in my party did. Then before we agreed it was time to pull a wanderer from Odin pulled it. I told her she didn't spawn it so it wasn't her call to pull it and she replied "hug me", which is a profanity alternative used on Reddit where the word "hug" replaces the f-bomb. Quite clearly these people don't care and want to grief and take joy in griefing others because they can, if you try to argue with them they argue back saying they're in the right because the game allows it and the shout chat just becomes a wall of aggressive and frustrated screams.

By using a cross-world system that allows people to spawn and kill hunt targets on servers other than their own it's made hunting an even worse game than ever and introduced a level of toxicity that is driving people away from the game from what I've been informed. I wonder just how many more players are going to stick around by the end of the year when the toxicity and griefing makes the game too unbearable to play.

[Kaitoo]

This has been expected for a long time and the insistent refusal to make any change to older hunts has now led to this - ARR targets being killed less than 30 seconds after announcing they're up and only taking 2-3 seconds to die at the hands of 100 players all level 80, some don't even bother to announce they're up and just kill them solo because they can. The level of toxicity at S hunts is so bad that it's smearing all over the game and making it a horrible experience to do anything with other players.

you are aware you dont need to announce hunts, right? its just courtesy, not a game mechanic or enforced.

Now i also dont like crossworld for myriad other reasons.

[geekgirl101]

you are aware you dont need to announce hunts, right? its just courtesy, not a game mechanic or enforced.

Now i also dont like crossworld for myriad other reasons.

Except that S ranks were never meant to be soloable and in order to kill them you had to call for others to help kill them and the rewards are distributed to all participants. Please don't give ninjas any more leverage to continue what they're doing, or at least suggest something to benefit not just the minority of players who are causing trouble for the entire data center, like make S rank and major boss FATE spawns a realm announcement and not just limited to the zone, tune their difficulty to the players etc, because as it stands most players don't get to participate in hunting or killing S ranks and they die far too quickly that many don't arrive on time if they've been alerted too late.

[Kaitoo]

Except that S ranks were never meant to be soloable

Quotation needed, as time passes things in mmo become soloable by default

[geekgirl101]

Quotation needed, as time passes things in mmo become soloable by default

Logic, seriously, plus the fact Yoshi said he won't make S ranks harder because he wants lower levels to benefit from them, but lower levels can't unless they team up.

[Tranquilmelody7]

I completely agree.
I don't really have anything else to say that hasn't been said already.

Even if there were no toxicity, I still feel S ranks are dynamic enough to deserve putting a chance to actually fight players back, and not get melted in 2 seconds.

[Gula]

Imagine being a new player introduced to hunts and scouring achievements. And then meeting the less than courteous hunt community. RIP achievements.

There was a tug of war yesterday with the spawner of an SB S rank and impatient people who ended up resetting the thing twice. I'm leaning more and more towards level sync.