Every problem with the current iteration of healers.

[Reiryuu]

Everything else is honestly fine, especially Temperance; all future WHM skills should aspire to it.

No. No. No. No. and Hell no. Taking away 2 skills (protect- yes, it came back as the PVP version, but it's still protect and divine seal) and combining them into the level 80 skill an expansion pack later should not be tolerated let alone applauded as a skill that should be mimicked in any way shape or form. Especially when it uses rehashed graphical assets for its spell effect.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

The more I run Savage, Titan especially, the more I wonder why they didn't give WHM an emergency aoe shield aside from wings.
And that's not me saying wings is weak, but the second we don't have mitigation from another healer or tank we all just die even if at full HP, and it sucks so bad that there's nothing we can do about this.
In a pinch, AST does have two sources of aoe mitigation. Collective and Neutral Sect. I'm not saying WHM needs to turn towards big mitigation, but they said themselves that they wanted to close the gap between pure healers and shield healers. All it seems like to me is the shield healers got more heals and the pure healers got tossed a bone.

[MPNZ]

The more I run Savage, Titan especially, the more I wonder why they didn't give WHM an emergency aoe shield aside from wings.
And that's not me saying wings is weak, but the second we don't have mitigation from another healer or tank we all just die even if at full HP, and it sucks so bad that there's nothing we can do about this.
In a pinch, AST does have two sources of aoe mitigation. Collective and Neutral Sect. I'm not saying WHM needs to turn towards big mitigation, but they said themselves that they wanted to close the gap between pure healers and shield healers. All it seems like to me is the shield healers got more heals and the pure healers got tossed a bone.

Basically, it's same situation as TNKs: all three of them needed to be able to off-tank and main-tank. And, all of the healers need to be able to use both regens and shields

[Dalvy]

The 1 DoT/1 Nuke setup they currently have going for healers is mind-numbingly boring. I'll join my voice in the chorus of people that miss the versatility SCH used to have. WHM is forever the cure/stone/glare spambot without any real changes to the toolkit.

This is a scary direction that SE seems to be applying to healers for 5.0. I've seen similar sweeping changes in the OTHER big MMO, and it also watered down the healers into a 1 small heal, 1 medium heal, 1 big heal-type set up. It killed the variety between the five healing classes in favor of homogenization.

[Ubbernaut]

The 1 DoT/1 Nuke setup they currently have going for healers is mind-numbingly boring. I'll join my voice in the chorus of people that miss the versatility SCH used to have. WHM is forever the cure/stone/glare spambot without any real changes to the toolkit.

This is a scary direction that SE seems to be applying to healers for 5.0. I've seen similar sweeping changes in the OTHER big MMO, and it also watered down the healers into a 1 small heal, 1 medium heal, 1 big heal-type set up. It killed the variety between the five healing classes in favor of homogenization.

Yep. And now it's paying the price for it. Heck people are flocking with utter joy going back to how it was literally a decade ago, with praise for class variety and feel.

You'd think SE would notice this, but alas seems they may have gone all-in into by-the-numbers homogenization.

[Lethros]

Although the damage department of each healer has previously given more depth to playing each, I think the redirection away from focusing on the how of damage suits the role more. Even if not much has been done to put depth into other areas of play, if someone wants DPS interactions then that's what a DPS job does, not a healer. I don't think the primary draw of being a healer is to weave DPS personality interests into it.

[rachcouture]

Although the damage department of each healer has previously given more depth to playing each, I think the redirection away from focusing on the how of damage suits the role more. Even if not much has been done to put depth into other areas of play, if someone wants DPS interactions then that's what a DPS job does, not a healer. I don't think the primary draw of being a healer is to weave DPS personality interests into it.

I agree with this; it's why I suggested all healers have a standardized set of four offensive spells to cover all the basics. What we really need are more support skills to use during our downtime, the very thing that made AST so captivating.

No. No. No. No. and Hell no. Taking away 2 skills (protect- yes, it came back as the PVP version, but it's still protect and divine seal) and combining them into the level 80 skill an expansion pack later should not be tolerated let alone applauded as a skill that should be mimicked in any way shape or form. Especially when it uses rehashed graphical assets for its spell effect.

It's not really the same, though? Protect was a pointless maintenance buff, and Divine Seal only affected yourself. This is a mass improvement, and is the direction we should be going in: more unique support for each healer job. Honestly, I think you may be the only person I've seen complain about the crystal wings that were a temporary item for a very old promotion...

[MPNZ]

The current three jobs need to be equipped with a Lesser heal, greater heal, aoe heal, regen, and a shield along with an AOE and single target attack spells as standard with identity and uniqueness added later through a themed trinary mechanic and through it's overall theme (light & nature, strategy & fairies, astrological and tarot based mysticism and scientific studies of outer space) and the way players interact with it. WHM has no identity or an impactful use of theme besides Healing with Holy and is currently only slightly more interesting. Scholar was such a total mess of spells with little very little thought put into their inclusion in regards to it's themes of being a tactician/strategist and fae-based healing besides some of the decisions with Aether flow and it's design, IMO. And, AST, like, has the right idea with the new actions (creating divination/horoscope) and totally feels all wrong at the same time with poor decisions in it's changes (seals, cards). Also, Imo.

[Deceptus]

No. No. No. No. and Hell no. Taking away 2 skills (protect- yes, it came back as the PVP version, but it's still protect and divine seal) and combining them into the level 80 skill an expansion pack later should not be tolerated let alone applauded as a skill that should be mimicked in any way shape or form. Especially when it uses rehashed graphical assets for its spell effect.

SE did the same thing with Stoneskin > Divine Benison and then nerfed it AGAIN.

[Acidblood]

I agree with this; it's why I suggested all healers have a standardized set of four offensive spells to cover all the basics. What we really need are more support skills to use during our downtime, the very thing that made AST so captivating.

Why standardise though? Why not have a healer with a deep DPS kit, a healer with more and varied support, a simple and straightforward healer, a complex healer with strong kit interactions (inc. its DPS) ... make healing appeal to a broad range of people, not just those who like the 'standard'.

It's not really the same, though? Protect was a pointless maintenance buff, and Divine Seal only affected yourself. This is a mass improvement, and is the direction we should be going in: more unique support for each healer job. Honestly, I think you may be the only person I've seen complain about the crystal wings that were a temporary item for a very old promotion...

Divine Seal was available at level 50 (or lower?), as was Protect (which could have been reworked). Having those taken away and only given back at level cap is horrid.