Reasonable buff to war

[BarretOblivion]

Warrior doesn't need any DPS buff.

Extend Storm's Eye duration is ok, it could help.

I dont understand why ppl playing warrior feel bad if they are not Tank Top DPS...I dont see the point...Its like they think that Top DPS for Warrior is a must...when it doesn't make any sense. Maybe is because War used to be tank Top DPS in old expansions like Stormblood or Heavensward? i dont know.

Cause WAR is the least played job when it comes to tanks. WAR is hurting, anyone who argues against this is putting on blinders. The only fight WAR is good is Leviathan. Reason? Both tanks are getting hit so Nascent Flash is decent for healing and Holmgang makes dealing with the tankbusts easy. Everywhere else don't bring a WAR, just dont. PLD has more utility and more damage than WAR, GNB has a better OT skill for dealing with TB and the highest DMG, even DRK has higher DMG than WAR and better OT skill than WAR even with all of its issues. Finally, people aren't happy with WAR anymore. The removal of its one defining Tank Dancing strength that gave WAR depth is gone, leaving a job that takes not only 0 brain power to play, but also the most boring of all the tanks. You can't find any WAR that will say WAR feels good outside of IR. When IR is on cooldown, WAR is the worst job in the game to play.

[Greywolfamakir]

Cause WAR is the least played job when it comes to tanks.

It doesn't mean that War need a potency buff, maybe it needs some changes, but potency wise is perfectly fine.

[BarretOblivion]

It doesn't mean that War need a potency buff, maybe it needs some changes, but potency wise is perfectly fine.

At no point have I said WAR needs potency buffs, they need skills. I used to main WAR and the moment you hit 80 you realize just how barren the job is. You got 1 new skill and basically 2 passives for a "progression" of the job while losing the thing that made WAR unique and skill based in SB. Tank Dancing. WAR was the best at it even with the issue with Inner Beast as it gave WAR the unique ability to use their Tank Stance as a tool with very little downsides mid fight before swapping back to Deliverance. With the removal of that feature WAR is now a shallow, dead class. It needs skills and something to do outside of IR because... holy crap does it feel like crap to play when IR is on cooldown.

[aleios_dvs]

It doesn't mean that War need a potency buff, maybe it needs some changes, but potency wise is perfectly fine.

So sayeth the 70 WAR yikes. Why should WAR deal more damage? Because it makes sense. Loladin has a shield. Its identity is mitigation. WAR has a GIANT BLOODY AXE. Its identity is caving in peoples skulls. Get that through THY thick skull. Now let's hear the reasoning you have for any other tank being the top DPS. Since you bloody well seem to have an firm unwavering opinion on this.

God jesus can we just rollback to HW jobs already. Simply make BRD not a bloody bowmage and all is well. The job design since SB has sucked so goddamn much catering towards dropkicks that QQ'd about Cleric Stance and swapping to Deliverance.

[Arrius]

So sayeth the 70 WAR yikes. Why should WAR deal more damage? Because it makes sense. Loladin has a shield. Its identity is mitigation. WAR has a GIANT BLOODY AXE. Its identity is caving in peoples skulls. Get that through THY thick skull. Now let's hear the reasoning you have for any other tank being the top DPS. Since you bloody well seem to have an firm unwavering opinion on this.

God jesus can we just rollback to HW jobs already. Simply make BRD not a bloody bowmage and all is well. The job design since SB has sucked so goddamn much catering towards dropkicks that QQ'd about Cleric Stance and swapping to Deliverance.

Paladins have a sword, shield AND magic that works with them.
This argument about having the biggest weapon around doesn't justify you being the biggest damage dealer.

It's just like D&D right now - Paladin dishes out the most, while the Barbarian literally is unkillable while enraged.

And the Warrior is the embodiment of that. They are simply too angry to die.

[RadicalPesto]

So sayeth the 70 WAR yikes. Why should WAR deal more damage? Because it makes sense. Loladin has a shield. Its identity is mitigation. WAR has a GIANT BLOODY AXE. Its identity is caving in peoples skulls. Get that through THY thick skull. Now let's hear the reasoning you have for any other tank being the top DPS. Since you bloody well seem to have an firm unwavering opinion on this.

God jesus can we just rollback to HW jobs already. Simply make BRD not a bloody bowmage and all is well. The job design since SB has sucked so goddamn much catering towards dropkicks that QQ'd about Cleric Stance and swapping to Deliverance.

Heavensward had by far the worst tank balance of any expansion in this game's history but of course, some people really are nostalgic for Warrior having both the best DPS, raid mitigation and personal mitigation in the game by a wide margin. Heavensward Warrior cannot come back ever because a job with the highest tank DPS by a huge margin, a 3 minute immunity, a 2 minute sentinel while all the other tanks have a 3 minute one, and a permanent -10% damage debuff attached to a combo is, fundamentally, impossible to balance.

[aleios_dvs]

I am not saying it should come back exactly as it was. What is this place? Cherry picking central? I want the old skill flow brought back into warrior. I don't care about the cooldowns. They're fine as they are now.

[Absimiliard]

So sayeth the 70 WAR yikes. Why should WAR deal more damage? Because it makes sense. Loladin has a shield. Its identity is mitigation. WAR has a GIANT BLOODY AXE. Its identity is caving in peoples skulls. Get that through THY thick skull. Now let's hear the reasoning you have for any other tank being the top DPS. Since you bloody well seem to have an firm unwavering opinion on this.

God jesus can we just rollback to HW jobs already. Simply make BRD not a bloody bowmage and all is well. The job design since SB has sucked so goddamn much catering towards dropkicks that QQ'd about Cleric Stance and swapping to Deliverance.

Okay.
1.) Shields were historically used for offense in tandem with whatever weapon was being wielded in the other hand - and very effectively so, I might add. Having a shield does not automatically mean someone does nothing but defend.
2.) Dark Knight uses a sword as big as - and sometimes bigger than - itself. It swings this weapon with enough to force to red mist any normal person that happened to get hit with it.
3.) Gunbreaker's weapon functions by using explosions to massively accelerate its swing speeds, superheat its blade, and even gain massively increased cutting power through edge vibration. The job also revolves heavily around finesse and skill despite having such a high impact weapon and excessively offensive fighting style.

Oh, and all three of these jobs make far more extensive use of aether than Warrior does.