So, can we just ban damage meters already.

[Ronduwil]

I completely agree. I'm tired of being made to look like a villain because I'm tired of carrying progressively worse players after 6 years of working to improve myself.

Has it ever occurred to you that the players aren't getting worse, but they just seem that way because you're getting better? Kudos to you for persistently improving yourself, but quit flattering yourself that you're "carrying" everyone. Most of the runs I've seen where a player rage quit the group because they were "tired of carrying the party" (in Wow, that is -- I've never seen that happen in this game) went much more smoothly without a prima donna ruining everyone's good time. If you don't want to "carry" anyone then stick to pre-made groups.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Has it ever occurred to you that the players aren't getting worse, but they just seem that way because you're getting better? Kudos to you for persistently improving yourself, but quit flattering yourself that you're "carrying" everyone. Most of the runs I've seen where a player rage quit the group because they were "tired of carrying the party" (in Wow, that is -- I've never seen that happen in this game) went much more smoothly without a prima donna ruining everyone's good time. If you don't want to "carry" anyone then stick to pre-made groups.

The previous expansion's later patches have had the pleasure of giving this forum threads of people claiming playing as an alternate character with only 4 buttons to press is too hard. One of them was even a WHM who was having trouble with Y'shtola.

[Alucard135]

If you don't want to "carry" anyone then stick to pre-made groups.

Or tell them that they're making mistakes and explain it, and if they refused or pulled the "you don't pay my sub" card, vote kick them.

[Hash_Browns]

If you don't want to "carry" anyone then stick to pre-made groups.

We've almost reached "You don't pay my sub" levels of excuses.

[CorbinDallas]

Has it ever occurred to you that the players aren't getting worse, but they just seem that way because you're getting better? Kudos to you for persistently improving yourself, but quit flattering yourself that you're "carrying" everyone. Most of the runs I've seen where a player rage quit the group because they were "tired of carrying the party" (in Wow, that is -- I've never seen that happen in this game) went much more smoothly without a prima donna ruining everyone's good time. If you don't want to "carry" anyone then stick to pre-made groups.

No, it's definitely getting worse. Content that the average player was able to complete relatively easily 6 months ago is now almost impossible, namely the Stormblood alliance raids, because people have magically forgotten how to do literally every mechanic in there. People double stack shared damage attacks and wipe groups instead of just running elsewhere and killing themselves without added casualties. They don't even know what half their buttons do and seem incapable of keeping their GCD rolling. They can't tell left from right. They can't beat a super lenient DPS check. They can't do basic actions that you are expected to learn in your first few dungeons.

Let's not even get into the deeper things like healer DPS, because most healers can't and won't learn to heal efficiently even if they don't DPS. Let's use a Regen before the pull is complete. Let's use Medica 2 5 times despite the fact everyone is full health and there has been no raid damage for over a minute, yeah, that happened during the Diabolos door in Dun Scaith.

I could go on and on. Fact is, the game does a really shit job of teaching people to play at an acceptable level and hand holds and coddles you through the entire MSQ and associated content. Then people are suddenly thrown into group content and shocked when they find that they can't do anything and die to every mechanic, because they haven't had to put any more effort than spamming a single button the entire time from 1 to 80. Guess what they do then? They don't communicate or bother to go look up how to better themselves, they think we'll I've got this far by being dead weight, I'll just continue.

I'll stand by this till I'm blue in the face, and I know I'm not the only one who feels anxious going into any form of content without a premade, because these days it's literally a coin flip whether you'll get through or waste your time. Veterans are carrying people left right and centre, only people don't realise it because the game won't show you how crap you are since people are so thin skinned that any and all form of criticism is taken beyond personal and they run and cry to GMs.

[ForteNightshade]

Has it ever occurred to you that the players aren't getting worse, but they just seem that way because you're getting better? Kudos to you for persistently improving yourself, but quit flattering yourself that you're "carrying" everyone. Most of the runs I've seen where a player rage quit the group because they were "tired of carrying the party" (in Wow, that is -- I've never seen that happen in this game) went much more smoothly without a prima donna ruining everyone's good time. If you don't want to "carry" anyone then stick to pre-made groups.

When I see a Samurai pulling less damage than the tanks, my own DPS or skill level has zero impact on their lack of said skill. The only difference is I put in the work to improve whereas this hypothetical Samurai didn't. They coasted on the coattails of everyone else.