Min ilvl setting and people saying this game is too east

[SturmChurro]

So, it's okay for RPers to get nothing because they enjoy RPing... But raiders... Who enjoy raiding... They should get special rewards.

Doesn't that seem... How do I put it...

Ya know, reading it, I'm sure you'll see what it looks like...

Yeah, it is completely fair. If an RPer wants the glam they can go do the content like everyone else has to. It's super simple.

[Niyuka]

RPers get so much every patch, the entire housing system is made for them, not to mention gazillions of emotes, different looks, hairstyles and music. None of that has any gameplay value.

People who like a challenge gameplay-wise, and would like to play classic MMORPG raidgame content are given a handful of bosses every 6 months, with half of those often nerfed to regular PUG levels, and half of the group content is released in an outdated state (every new dungeon, every 24 raid, is already outgeared at release by the playerbase. Whoever had that idea shouldnt work in this industry at all).

Heck, they just released the easiest savage tier in the entire history of the game (took only 14h to clear fully), vastly increased loot drops for the second-easiest normal raid tier, and gave you free AF gear just for getting lvl 80 that is actually enough to clear EX trials comfortably. It doesnt get any easier than that.

[Connor]

The game generally is very easy but I don’t think that’s an issue by itself. I think rather than there being too much easy stuff, I think it’s better to say that there isn’t a satisfying amount of ‘hard’ stuff. The game does pride itself on its accessibility, so it’s to be expected that it’d have comfortable and predictable content for general stuff. At the same time, the game doesn’t have a much to cater to ‘raider’ types.

The ‘casual’ type players like myself have pretty much all content. Crafters/gathers have some Beast Tribe quests and things like that upcoming Ishgardian restoration thing or the Doman reconstruction, plus scrips and gear/meld grinding. People who enjoy a more old-school type grind have (theoretically) Eureka and quite a things to grind for like mounts / rare glamours etc. But then people who enjoy high difficulty raids only really seem to have savage, which from what I’ve read isn’t a satisfying difficulty for those who want something ‘high difficulty’.

Maybe in the future they could have more ‘Ultimate’ raid fights for these types of players? Or perhaps some kind of content with a scaling enemy difficulty like PoTD that becomes more and more difficult as you progress. I wanted to say that it could have some kind penalties imposed on the party to increase difficulty, but then I realise that I’m literally just describing PoTD lol

[Sylve]

Probably no one, as there's no real incentives to doing so because you can't complete roulettes that way. There's also the matter that you yourself stated -- you'd need a premade, meaning you'd need 3/7/23 other like minded people who also feel like wasting their time doing a harder/slower duty without even getting roulette rewards for it.

A handful of ex trials will drop their (mostly worthless by now) music rolls more often. That's the only incentive. It isn't nearly enough.

I miss the days when people would challenge themselves for the fun of it.

Crazy concept, I know.
These days, you can barely convince people to do anything unless you they get a shiny reward from it.

[Barraind]

Blessed tools

As an aside, as someone who owns all of these, they absolutely suck as glam.

They're REALLY COOL if you want to go ino craft mode and sit there for taking screenshots, but they're the same general color as the craft quality orb at normal status, dont glow when not crafting (WHY?), and theres no offhand version, so you only see it on some of the recipes you craft.


They need a LOT of work.

[SpiritMuse]

This game is relatively easy, especially after playing it for so many years. And that's exactly why I like it. I can seek out challenging content when I want to, but I don't have to if I don't feel like it / don't have the energy / don't have the time.

[Annoynymoose]

So, it's okay for RPers to get nothing because they enjoy RPing... But raiders... Who enjoy raiding... They should get special rewards.

Doesn't that seem... How do I put it...

Ya know, reading it, I'm sure you'll see what it looks like...

You want BiS? You work hard for them like how raiders do.

[JowyAtreides]

Maybe they should be a tiny bit more strict on the default ilvl cap in each dungeon/trial, at least to the point that ignoring mechanics/tankbusters causes a little "oh sh*t" moment. The biggest problem to me, is a lot of the content can just be facerolled.

Difficult to do though considering that skillsets have evolved over the expansions.

[ForteNightshade]

So, it's okay for RPers to get nothing because they enjoy RPing... But raiders... Who enjoy raiding... They should get special rewards.

Doesn't that seem... How do I put it...

Ya know, reading it, I'm sure you'll see what it looks like...

Roleplaying, technically, does not involve playing the actual game nor does it require any development work. Yoshida could announce tomorrow that Shadowbringers will be the final expansion and it would have precisely zero impact on roleplayers. Even if they shut down the servers, you can roleplay through Discord because roleplay is literally a fantasy of your own design. Cassandra Solidor, the character, does not exist outside of my imagination or the imagination of those I share her with. Meanwhile, raiding directly requires you play the game. Rewarding people for roleplay makes no sense whatsoever for all the reasons HyoMin outlined. Why would a roleplay with little interest in Savage or Ultimate care about an i475 they aren't going to even use?

[Reinha]

So I’m curious here, I’ve seen a lot of people say the game is over all too easy and want more challenging content, my question is, how many of you are actually using the min ilvl setting

Yes please, I would love to run roulettes with the minimal item level setting!

with pre mades

Oh.