DRK do you wish you get Stalwart Soul at LV45 like the rest of the tanks?

[jetfire117]

Just need more ways to get mana back besides waiting a whole ONE MINUTE for bloodweapon. But I would love to have our AOE combo a lot sooner, but I also want either another CD or TBN to be acquired at a lower level. I depend on it too much and I feel very defenseless without it.

[Nedkel]

They should make it lvl 45, who cares if it will be a little strong, its just literally for a content that is barely ever played...
Its not like its going to break pvp or something.

[Sancho_Nyanta]

I agree, balancing for older less played content is kinda pointless. It kinda mirrors how I feel about the talk about needing TBN sooner, stuff in old content hits like a wet noodle and is about as durable as tissue paper. TBH I barely notice the lack of CDs since stuff does die so fast.

[cactuarzzzz]

I agree, balancing for older less played content is kinda pointless. It kinda mirrors how I feel about the talk about needing TBN sooner, stuff in old content hits like a wet noodle and is about as durable as tissue paper. TBH I barely notice the lack of CDs since stuff does die so fast.

Pointless? when duty roulete take you to older less played content everyday?

[waterboytkd]

This whole thread is all over the place. People are conflating the arguments about whether the DRK AoE is "strong enough" with "fun enough". I'm a Paladin main, but have been leveling DRK (currently 56) and using GNB if we're doing 60 leveling content. Even got my WAR to 16 now, so I can leveling roulette it. The one thing that has held true for all these classes? Low level game play is boring, no matter the class. Sure, for PLD, you get a 2 button combo at 45, but that's it. It's not terribly more engaging than the 1 button combo + oGCD that DRK gets at the same level. At least, at level 35, DRK is more engaging. :P

I think, rather than moving Stalwart Soul up, I'd rather the devs work on revamping the level sync system. Make our stats middle-to-low end for the level, but let us keep all our abilities. If I have to run Copperbell Mines every time I go into a leveling queue (which, anecdotal evidence suggests is true), it would be way more tolerable if I had my whole kit, even if my stats were low for the content.

[cactuarzzzz]

This whole thread is all over the place. People are conflating the arguments about whether the DRK AoE is "strong enough" with "fun enough". I'm a Paladin main, but have been leveling DRK (currently 56) and using GNB if we're doing 60 leveling content. Even got my WAR to 16 now, so I can leveling roulette it. The one thing that has held true for all these classes? Low level game play is boring, no matter the class. Sure, for PLD, you get a 2 button combo at 45, but that's it. It's not terribly more engaging than the 1 button combo + oGCD that DRK gets at the same level. At least, at level 35, DRK is more engaging. :P

I think, rather than moving Stalwart Soul up, I'd rather the devs work on revamping the level sync system. Make our stats middle-to-low end for the level, but let us keep all our abilities. If I have to run Copperbell Mines every time I go into a leveling queue (which, anecdotal evidence suggests is true), it would be way more tolerable if I had my whole kit, even if my stats were low for the content.

What I want to say : DRK is the slowest among the tanks to clear the pull below lv72 when there's more than 1 pull to clear. So I think it might be better to get Stalwart Soul instead of the Flood of Darkness at lower level and ask DRK if they feel the same.

It have nothing to do with boringness.

[waterboytkd]

What I want to say : DRK is the slowest among the tanks to clear the pull below lv72 when there's more than 1 pull to clear. So I think it might be better to get Stalwart Soul instead of the Flood of Darkness at lower level and ask DRK if they feel the same.

It have nothing to do with boringness.

I guess I'm unsure what we're talking about. Are we playing solo content? Because in group content, the speed of the clear is far more dependent on the dps in the group, isn't it?

EDIT: as far as this goes, "Stalwart Soul instead of the Flood of Darkness", my personal opinion is no. Getting mana back would be pointless without Flood of Darkness, and given the low potency of Stalwart Soul (160 with combo; though it does build blood, that too is pointless before 62/64), you actually do better with Flood, yeah? The 10% damage boost from Darkside is better?

[cactuarzzzz]

I guess I'm unsure what we're talking about. Are we playing solo content? Because in group content, the speed of the clear is far more dependent on the dps in the group, isn't it?

If both DRK and other tanks have the same group of dps, group that have DRK is still the slowest.

[Izsha]

Just need more ways to get mana back besides waiting a whole ONE MINUTE for bloodweapon. But I would love to have our AOE combo a lot sooner, but I also want either another CD or TBN to be acquired at a lower level. I depend on it too much and I feel very defenseless without it.

And i would like to not have to wait ONE MINUTE to use steel cyclone as war and spen the other 57.5 seconds hitting 2 buttons back and forth. Drk isnt some special snowflake with lame, slow gameplay at lv 49. Oh wait. If were talking pre 50 war doesnt even jave infuriate. War literally hits 2 gcd buttons back and forth forever. Then one every 90 seconds hits zerk. 2 attack actions and 1 damage buff. Thats warrior pre 50. Drk has about the same number if actions that also come up slowly. You want to talk about boring? Go play war below 50.

ALL JOBS ARE SLOW PRE 50. thats what halpens when you prune down abilities and spread them over 80 levels when we used to have the same number of actions crammed into 50 levels.

Low level dungeons are just boring by design. Thats not a drk specific issue.

[waterboytkd]

If both DRK and other tanks have the same group of dps, group that have DRK is still the slowest.

Gotcha. I did make an edit to my original post, but I was probably too slow for your comment. I'm not 100% sure what I stated is correct.