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    Quote Originally Posted by waterboytkd View Post
    This whole thread is all over the place. People are conflating the arguments about whether the DRK AoE is "strong enough" with "fun enough". I'm a Paladin main, but have been leveling DRK (currently 56) and using GNB if we're doing 60 leveling content. Even got my WAR to 16 now, so I can leveling roulette it. The one thing that has held true for all these classes? Low level game play is boring, no matter the class. Sure, for PLD, you get a 2 button combo at 45, but that's it. It's not terribly more engaging than the 1 button combo + oGCD that DRK gets at the same level. At least, at level 35, DRK is more engaging. :P

    I think, rather than moving Stalwart Soul up, I'd rather the devs work on revamping the level sync system. Make our stats middle-to-low end for the level, but let us keep all our abilities. If I have to run Copperbell Mines every time I go into a leveling queue (which, anecdotal evidence suggests is true), it would be way more tolerable if I had my whole kit, even if my stats were low for the content.
    What I want to say : DRK is the slowest among the tanks to clear the pull below lv72 when there's more than 1 pull to clear. So I think it might be better to get Stalwart Soul instead of the Flood of Darkness at lower level and ask DRK if they feel the same.

    It have nothing to do with boringness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
    What I want to say : DRK is the slowest among the tanks to clear the pull below lv72 when there's more than 1 pull to clear. So I think it might be better to get Stalwart Soul instead of the Flood of Darkness at lower level and ask DRK if they feel the same.

    It have nothing to do with boringness.
    I guess I'm unsure what we're talking about. Are we playing solo content? Because in group content, the speed of the clear is far more dependent on the dps in the group, isn't it?

    EDIT: as far as this goes, "Stalwart Soul instead of the Flood of Darkness", my personal opinion is no. Getting mana back would be pointless without Flood of Darkness, and given the low potency of Stalwart Soul (160 with combo; though it does build blood, that too is pointless before 62/64), you actually do better with Flood, yeah? The 10% damage boost from Darkside is better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by waterboytkd View Post
    I guess I'm unsure what we're talking about. Are we playing solo content? Because in group content, the speed of the clear is far more dependent on the dps in the group, isn't it?
    If both DRK and other tanks have the same group of dps, group that have DRK is still the slowest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
    If both DRK and other tanks have the same group of dps, group that have DRK is still the slowest.
    Gotcha. I did make an edit to my original post, but I was probably too slow for your comment. I'm not 100% sure what I stated is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waterboytkd View Post
    I guess I'm unsure what we're talking about. Are we playing solo content? Because in group content, the speed of the clear is far more dependent on the dps in the group, isn't it?

    EDIT: as far as this goes, "Stalwart Soul instead of the Flood of Darkness", my personal opinion is no. Getting mana back would be pointless without Flood of Darkness, and given the low potency of Stalwart Soul (160 with combo; though it does build blood, that too is pointless before 62/64), you actually do better with Flood, yeah? The 10% damage boost from Darkside is better?
    Even without Flood we still have Edge.
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