Saving the Void? (Time travel) - future expansion idea?

[KageTokage]

There's also a slight complication in that it's been stated that the Void has been drained of its aether, which is why the voidsent are so desperate to claw their way into the other worlds.

I suppose it could end up being a similar case to the First where the aether is not actually gone and simply stuck in a state where it's of no use to sustaining the world. If the light in effect "froze" the aether and made it stop flowing, then excess darkness might have left it in a hyperactive unstable state instead (Which could logically be reversed with Eden's powers).

[Iscah]

They already setup that the Crystal Tower can travel the shards and that the tower itself is a giant repository of energy. Summoning the Crystal tower into the Void would be the first step to fixing it [...]

They also already set up that we - presumably - broke it so it won't be traveling any more, unless a future Twinning (Hard) has us fixing it again.


Edit to add: Even if we fixed it, we're back to the the "optional quest status" issue again and probably nothing besides the Twinning (Hard) unlock quest can mention the state of the possibly-fixed-possibly-broken time machine.... at least not without some variable dialogue and an excuse why we can't use it even if it's currently working.

[Atamis]

I feel like Eden is setting up something regarding the void; namely that it might not be as hopeless of a case as everyone thought it was.

Or at least I don't know why else a warrior from there who's suggested to be the Oracle of Darkness would show up out of the blue, as if her role is the same as that of the Oracle of Light, it's to bring balance to her world.

As i said before cryptically, the final role quest also eludes to this as well.


Side note, how do you do the spoilery drop down menu?

[Edax]

As i said before cryptically, the final role quest also eludes to this as well.


Side note, how do you do the spoilery drop down menu?

"Go Advance"

Then highlight the spoilery text and click on the red question mark icon (2nd from the right on the 2nd row) which will wrap HB tags around the spoiler text

[Enkidoh]

Or you could simply type things as normal and manually add '[ hb ] [/ hb ]' tags around what you want to hide (without the spaces in the brackets).

[LineageRazor]

I gotta say, I'm liking the idea of Aether being present in the Void, but agitated to a state where it's unusable by life - hence the Voidsents' eternal hunger. It meshes well with what we know of the Flood of Light - the Aether is still there, but calmed to a state where it's unusable by life. It really opens up the door to the concept of the Void being salvageable.

There's still the question of who we'd be salvaging it FOR. There's no one left alive to repopulate it. As far as we can tell, becoming a sin eater or a voidsent is irreversible. I guess the voidsent might stop invading other worlds, given that they'd now have plenty to eat on their homeworld. But if anyone were to settle there, we'd need to clean up the Voidsent first...

I think the biggest problem with repairing the void via Eden is that it seems too much of a "world-shifting" event to be relegated to an optional sidequest - unless we're perhaps only "planting the seed" of restoration and it will take a long time to actually return the aether to normal. Which seems to be the case for the Empty as well.

Yeah, if we ever do wind up fixing the Thirteenth, I think it's safe to say that Voidsent will remain a problem for a few generations, at least (and certainly well-beyond the scope of the game). That way, SE doesn't have to explain why there's still Ahriman floating around Northern Thanalan or whatever, when the Thirteenth is now a whole and happy world. I could see us being instrumental in setting in motion some kind of process that will restore the Thirteenth over time, just as I imagine will happen with Eden. I've little doubt that by the time we're done with E12, all six elements will have been restored - and will be slowly spreading across the Empty.

[Edax]

I gotta say, I'm liking the idea of Aether being present in the Void, but agitated to a state where it's unusable by life - hence the Voidsents' eternal hunger. It meshes well with what we know of the Flood of Light - the Aether is still there, but calmed to a state where it's unusable by life. It really opens up the door to the concept of the Void being salvageable.

There's still the question of who we'd be salvaging it FOR. There's no one left alive to repopulate it.

Now I haven't finished the respective storylines, but we have the Warrior of Light of the Void and the Oracle of Darkness of the Void still running around so it may imply that there's still a population under siege in the Thirteenth.

[ObsidianFire]

The two Echo-blessed individuals from the Void were both gotten out of there by the Ascians and held in stasis until the Ascians had use of them on another Shard. From the sound of it, neither of them got themselves out of the Void.

The so-called Oracle of Darkness looks like she was under the control of a Voidsent. So who knows how long she was in that state.

[Crushnight]

There is 1 big different between sin eaters and voidsent, voidsent are not just instinctual creatures unlike sin eaters which have not shown any semblance of thought

Vauthry/Innoccence is a weird exception as is implied it is half human

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Sin eaters have lost anything that would be considered a person when they have been turned for awhile

Tesleen being the only sin eater to speak and Lyna specifically mentions it is due to being newly turned

yet Voidsent very much can plan, manipulate and are not just instinctual beings some are but the higher ones are not, so it might be possible that reverting the flood of darkness might force the higher beings to change back into spoken races (which would be another nightmare scene of lovely pain).

[Nightsword]

There is 1 big different between sin eaters and voidsent, voidsent are not just instinctual creatures unlike sin eaters which have not shown any semblance of thought

Vauthry/Innoccence is a weird exception as is implied it is half human

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Sin eaters have lost anything that would be considered a person when they have been turned for awhile

Tesleen being the only sin eater to speak and Lyna specifically mentions it is due to being newly turned

yet Voidsent very much can plan, manipulate and are not just instinctual beings some are but the higher ones are not, so it might be possible that reverting the flood of darkness might force the higher beings to change back into spoken races (which would be another nightmare scene of lovely pain).

The voidsent also have several thousand years ahead of the sin eaters, so it is quite possible they were much the same the first few centuries after the flood of darkness. Given that the 13th Shard was wholly consumed it also may have sped things up quite a bit vs the partly consumed 1st too. The Holy Cow of Eureka is another example of a "sin eater" that is a fully sentient being, all be it not on the first.