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    I had to get on my alt to get examples, but this is what I meant:

    Ear holes, ear covering, ear armor













    Quote Originally Posted by official_coconut View Post
    I found it bizarre that they knew Viera and Hrothgar were coming out but that the AF headpieces were made to be incompatible with them. I have limited expectations for any updates to the hair/hat situation for Viera because things that would make sense seem to be too much to do for some reason. I have limited expectations for Hrothgar too. I wish they could get new hairs because I find that too many of the few Hrothgar I see look too similar and I would like my Hrothgar character to stand out more. However if with every new hair I have to buy more fantasias then I will have to revert him to Roegadyn because that is asking to much from me.
    They flat out just make excuses, and put it off. Yeah, as a hrothgar you might as well just fantasia to ROE rather than switch to a different hair/face. You would get not only hairs back, but all headgear as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Honestly speaking? I think they took on more than they could chew and just flat out ran out of time. During the fanfest when Hrothgar were unveiled it was revealed that the models had only /just/ been made presentation worthy the day before, and when the Viera were likewise showcased for the first time you'll noticed that each literally has almost the same exact face as the others with just slight variations. Given how different Viera face models actually are it seems odd that for the reveal trailer what we're shown is basically just one preset out of the four, unless the other three weren't even ready to be shown at that point. Now as to whether or not this was an upper management problem or a problem with the art team is unclear, but I very firmly believe that if they held the races back another few months most of these issues likely would have been fixed.
    That, but the fact they have doubled down, accepted the races as limited rather than overcoming those limitations, and settled give us placations instead. Not what I like to see. Missing gender, missing headgear, missing hairstyles, and more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    That, but the fact they have doubled down, accepted the races as limited rather than overcoming those limitations, and settled give us placations instead. Not what I like to see. Missing gender, missing headgear, missing hairstyles, and more!
    I don't disagree. While I understand why stuff took so long and why things will continue to take awhile to fix, I very much wish they had held the races back instead of pushing them out in this state. I get the point of new races being an expansion seller but if your poor art team has to double-crunch just to fix an issue that poor planning brought about then you really need to consider whether or not it's worth releasing the product in the state it's in. People would have been mildly upset about the delay in the races being implemented but I think the majority of us would have been accepting of the reason if we were told about it up front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    and when the Viera were likewise showcased for the first time you'll noticed that each literally has almost the same exact face as the others with just slight variations. Given how different Viera face models actually are it seems odd that for the reveal trailer what we're shown is basically just one preset out of the four, unless the other three weren't even ready to be shown at that point.
    I wouldn't really be surprised at that considering that the Fran that appeared in game was likely a reuse of her model and animations from Zodiac Age. The Viera in the trailer were pretty much just Fran with different haircuts and hair colors.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I had to get on my alt to get examples, but this is what I meant:

    Ear holes, ear covering, ear armor
    I'm pretty certain the models with ear holes are legacy 1.X models.

    Most of the ear pockets/coverings/armor is actually them cheating a bit. I remember seeing a image comparison that showed that the pockets don't actually line up with Miqo'te ears for several models.

    One of the big problems is that all 4 of the Viera ear types need different holes. Even the two different straight ear styles would pop out of head gear differently.
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