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  1. #51
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    Vitreus's Avatar
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    Vitreus Hyalus
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    Behemoth
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    Botanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    I had a case of that in void ark just now actually. Had 2 seals but redrawing 3 times in a row didn't yield the one I "needed" for that marginal dps increase. They changed cards with the reasoning of balance fishing but here I am "fishing" for seals, all for a 2% increase from the poor divination.
    What's stupid is the whole reason they remade the cards was to avoid this problem i.e. "useless" cards. But the problem clearly still exists or they wouldn't have given us the band aid which was three redraws.

    Also why were card times reduced by half to fifteen seconds?
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  2. #52
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    Ahrijlaken's Avatar
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    Ahri Eija
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 76
    SCH : Fey action latency piss me off so much. whisperdawn, fey illumination, aetherpact etc ... there is like 3 seconds latency it's horrible.

    Oh and give us back our AOE Dot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    AST : Card system feel "useless" now. Having every card doing the same thing isn't fun ... you pick a card, you pick up the 3 symbole, divination, then you pick the 3 symbole and while waiting divination CD you transform card to LADY/lORD .... etc ...

    Just remove card and leave divination with bigger damage buff. It will do the same.

    The only fun/interest with card is to make choices and have flexibility. The issue with the old sytem was to have a fcking damage card that make it mandatory and kill the "choice". Card should only be no mandatory stuff that is more a QOL thing to support the team or ourself better.

    SE make it boring.
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    Last edited by Ahrijlaken; 08-12-2019 at 12:42 PM.

  3. #53
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    Boomsmash's Avatar
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    Arasgar Horo
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    I like the new astro cards.
    Yeah it lost different effects but no matter how you cut it.
    Cards not balance were useless or situational.
    Ewer and bole were situational.
    Spire was useless.
    Arrow nobody likes but blm and samurai.
    Spear was whatever, guess bards like it a lot and mnks.
    Balance everyone loves and pretty much the only card everybody really cares about and most useful.
    Oh, dear. You seem to actually be serious. You poor, poor thing. Let me try to explain it to you.

    AST was about being able to make the best of what chance gave you, and in so doing twist probability and fates. Cards you say are 'useless'? You just weren't paying attention to anything but Balance. Just because something is useful in every situation doesn't mean it's the only thing that should ever be used, or there will never be anything more useful.

    If all you saw was DPS, you weren't paying attention.
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  4. #54
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    TankHunter678's Avatar
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    Selena Zensh
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    I dont remember much of SCH lore, but I believe it was something like, the scholar whose soul stone you used had a single fairy named lily, but when you obtained the stone she got split in half, one half being eos, the other selene, so yes, them just being skins is pretty much going in the face of that.

    Sorry if I messed up the lore, it has been a long time.
    As I am leveling SCH myself... Eos is treated as being Lily. I just got introduced to another former SCH who had a fairy named Lilac, though I am only level 66 atm I expect the storyline is going to have Lilac share my soulstone with Lily.
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  5. #55
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    Acidblood's Avatar
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    Sylvaria Molkot
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vitreus View Post
    Also why were card times reduced by half to fifteen seconds?
    I suspect it is because the effects are now all the same and a 30s duration would mean 100% uptime, which would be too powerful. Under the old system the durations could be longer (and the effects more powerful) because although 100% uptime was possible the varying effects and royal road made it a rare occurrence.
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  6. #56
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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    As I am leveling SCH myself... Eos is treated as being Lily. I just got introduced to another former SCH who had a fairy named Lilac, though I am only level 66 atm I expect the storyline is going to have Lilac share my soulstone with Lily.
    Ah, that sounds right. Yeah it's been awhile and I only half paid attention tbh. Appreciate the correction.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

  7. #57
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    Dynia's Avatar
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    Yuin Yasha
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    It's already been bought up, but please don't leave WHM out. They only seem good because the other healers feel lacking (mostly just AST though) and if we continue ignoring WHM while constantly asking for SCH and AST buffs we're going to be back where we started, where WHM was horrible and no one cared.
    they won't, but I don't care any more ...
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  8. #58
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    they won't, but I don't care any more ...
    You cared enough to come back after all that raging you did the other day.
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    Last edited by Mesarthim; 08-13-2019 at 03:27 AM.

  9. #59
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    Dynia's Avatar
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    Yuin Yasha
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    You cared enough to come back after all that raging you did yesterday.
    im just grabbin popcorn and see how the world falling again for WHM, like I said don't care have my paladin now
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  10. #60
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    Mirajane_Takami's Avatar
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    Shiro Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Sch Pets need to get reverted , i wanna control my pet and also tell it to nyahh not heal that target anymore and heal this one , while im healing another or doing dmg so we can actually go back to what made sch good and have more flexibility / skill , sadly its just a minion that heals every now and then /sigh
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