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  1. #22951
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxHell View Post
    So I got Dun Scaith on my DRK in my alliance roulette. Me and some people claim we haven't got this raid in a long time and it showed as soon as the first boss. Everyone gets hit pretty hard, there are some deaths but we pull through.

    Ferdiad, nothing major, I tank it just fine and mechanics are done correctly. Though I can't help but watch the healers do more dps than healing... welp they kept me alive so it's no big deal. Right?

    Proto Ultima, I tank it, fight goes smoothly except this time the healers really are doing more dps than healing. AST who was on diurnal sect never once threw an Aspected Benefic my way and SCH didn't throw an Adlo either.

    Scathach cometh. Once again I tank it and oh boy they keep dpsing and not healing me and of course I die. I suggest they should you know, heal their tank that is MT?
    The fight ends, we arrive at Diabolos, I'm about to pull and...I'm kicked.

    No answers whatsoever from the healers or anyone else in the party, just straight up kicked. Just waoh.
    I going to say something about alliance roulettes: in general, people there play with their brains turned off. Healers and tanks don't want to do anything related to their role. In the future don't bother and avoid tanking those bosses unless you end with a healer that can heal and do dps at the same time.
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  2. #22952
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    Did you say it in like a certain way or something?
    Sometimes it's how you say it too, but I mean like...
    Nowadays you can't say a damned thing without someones feelers hurt so I just stop talking lmao.
    Screw it.
    It literally doesn't matter how you say anything. Better off saying nothing. Even genuine help is taken the wrong way in this game. Kicking is the least of it, people report constantly too - advice for these forums as well.

    Last night I was doing PoTD leveling my monk, one of them started getting mad at me in the chat for "not helping" because I was clearing rooms on my own. I just straight up said in the chat "just kick me", and they did. Just how it is.

    If you do want to say something, I say don't pretty it up, say what you mean. They will probably kick you anyway - most definitely if they have a buddy.
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  3. #22953
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    It literally doesn't matter how you say anything. Better off saying nothing. Even genuine help is taken the wrong way in this game. Kicking is the least of it, people report constantly too - advice for these forums as well.

    Last night I was doing PoTD leveling my monk, one of them started getting mad at me in the chat for "not helping" because I was clearing rooms on my own. I just straight up said in the chat "just kick me", and they did. Just how it is.
    I'm scared to say hi anymore in the dungeons now.
    Me: Hi all!
    "KICK 'EM! KICK 'EM FOR SAYING HI AND NOT SPRINTING AT FULL FORCE TO THE MOBS! REPORT AND CRY ABOUT THEM ON THE FORUMS THEN HAVE A 40000 PAGE DEBATE ABOUT IT!"
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  4. #22954
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    Did you say it in like a certain way or something?
    Sometimes it's how you say it too, but I mean like...
    Nowadays you can't say a damned thing without someones feelers hurt so I just stop talking lmao.
    Screw it. I'm a mentor just to see whats up and help when I can in NN.
    People are more appreciative. Dungeons people do whatever and don't listen
    and get buttpained when they die and you try to help so I'm done helping lol.
    People are extremely sensitive in this game, no matter how you say it or how nice you are. I remember one dungeon not that long ago: "X can you please do AoE?" "No, and don't tell me how to play".
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  5. #22955
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    People are extremely sensitive in this game, no matter how you say it or how nice you are. I remember one dungeon not that long ago: "X can you please do AoE?" "No, and don't tell me how to play".
    One dungeon? Nope.. that's about MOST dungeons.

    Unfortunately the passive-aggressiveness is contagious. I am part of the problem at times admittedly. Just this morning this rdm was reviving the other dps who couldn't do mechanics before me, for me, and then healing that dps (vercure) instead of dps. He tells me, get this he tells me "Trust me. You need me.." I stopped healing altogether after that, I let the tank die 3 times on trash pulls, until the rdm finally says "fine" or something along those lines when I told him to dps.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 08-12-2019 at 06:33 AM.
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  6. #22956
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    snip
    Here's a screenshot of my log:



    The alliance one in orange was when I had around 20% of my health left and didn't realize I was in alliance chat at that moment. Party chat in blue was after I died.

    Could what I said be considered mean? Yeah probably but if you ask me, if you come to do the job you signed up for, and end up not doing it? I'll call you on that buddy.
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    Last edited by AxHell; 08-12-2019 at 06:02 AM.

  7. #22957
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxHell View Post
    Could what I said be considered mean? Yeah probably but if you ask me, if you come to do the job you signed up for, and end up not doing it? I'll call you on that buddy.
    Good man. Keep at it! I do the same thing! You learn to embrace the kicks.

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  8. #22958
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Good man. Keep at it! I do the same thing! You learn to embrace the kicks.
    I'll admit I've been kicked for petty reasons such as letting DPS tank a trash pull after telling them that "No, I won't pull more cause we might wipe", or letting people die cause I got tired of rezzing their butts when they kept getting killed by simple mechanics. But so far, from my experience, today's kick felt like the pettiest to me.
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  9. #22959
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxHell View Post
    Here's a screenshot of my log:



    The alliance one in orange was when I had around 20% of my health left and didn't realize I was in alliance chat at that moment. Party chat in blue was after I died.

    Could what I said be considered mean? Yeah probably but if you ask me, if you come to do the job you signed up for, and end up not doing it? I'll call you on that buddy.
    I see nothing wrong with was said. It'd be one thing if they actually did or they tried and you said that but yo, if they're prioritising dps over healing, call them out.

    I mean, it's just like how you go into an alliance roulette, adds pop and tanks don't grab them or those dps checks come and dps tunnel vision boss. You gotta call those people out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  10. #22960
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Snip.
    Hi. I mentioned they pulled for me in my post.

    I've had people do ridiculous things like use Elusive Jump to get ahead of me to pull mobs.

    It's okay to get ahead of me. It's not okay to troll on this level and, like I said in my post, cause chaos.

    So, please don't tell me to get over it. You don't know what's happening. This thread is for venting. I have as much of a right to vent as anyone else.
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