Quote Originally Posted by Hezzlocks View Post
That said, it seems clear there is still an awful lot we don't know about Ampador and Mhachi. I'm rather hoping that we get more information about it because as far as we've seen there has only been one of the lion sin eaters, and the Ampadori recreated it exactly. We've only seen the one, which makes it appear to be either exceptionally rare or even unique.
There were in fact at least 2 Forgiven Cruelty. Though the parts of the Shadowbringers CGI trailer/opening involving derplander, the exarch and the Crystarium are fabrications for the sake of presentation, the scenes of Urianger and Y'shtola in the burning Greatwood, and Thancred and Minfillia(Ryne) facing off against the winged lion in Eulmore, are indeed canon and referenced within the MSQ itself. If you take Thancred or Ryne as trusts in Mt Gulg, Thancred will reference the first boss as 'another lion', while Ryne will say 'this time (she) wont just be hiding'.