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    Luu Buu
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    Siren
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    Dragoon Lv 80

    NEW HEALER CLASS IDEA!

    So from what I understand, the devs over at square need new ideas for a healer. So hear me out,...

    GEOMANCER

    It could operate much like mechanist does with turrets, but with trees providing powerful aoe heals. Instead of directly healing with skills, the geomancer could keep these tree-turrets alive with a dual purpose AOE spell, specifically water/watera/waterga to both deal damage and water the plant life. In solo adventures the trees could garner aggro with each heal and in duties or trials the various AOE abilities could deal damage to the trees if the boss does not aggro them. The geomancer could also spawn various plant life, like a mighty oak to heal a tank, mushrooms for various status effects, and if the geomancer is in trouble perhaps a fissure of magma, or the spell comet! Not to mention being able to spawn a powerful yggdrasil sapling as an ultimate healing ability B-).

    I believe that since square is having trouble with a new healing class, this could be the answer they are looking for! It fits with final fantasy lore, it would make for new/interesting gameplay, and to top it all off the armor would look incredible!

    I made an account just to share this idea, I posted quickly, and I posted before seeing if this was an idea listed already or if this was the correct place to post, so please be kind. Let me know what you think! If this gets noticed maybe the devs will have the inspiration they need!
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    Marc Vigar
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    Geomancer already exists, it's called WHM.
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    They need to learn how to handle the 3 healers they have before they give us a 4th.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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    Aelin Wuntwilfwyn
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    They need to learn how to handle the 3 healers they have before they give us a 4th.
    I unfortunately have to agree. :/
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    I still want Geomancer as another magical tank using a (bell)mace.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Wawachume Popochume
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc-Vigar View Post
    Geomancer already exists, it's called WHM.
    I wish. But these days white mage is just sparklemancer and doesn't even have any more wind and rocks to throw.
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    Selena Zensh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc-Vigar View Post
    Geomancer already exists, it's called WHM.
    If you do the AST class quests Geomancer is its own entire thing from WHM. Not to mention that WHM has gone from being all about the elements to being all about how much light they fling at people.
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    Quilia Labro
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Welcome to the Forums. I'm all for a hammer-based job, preferably a tank, but I'll take anything.

    A fourth healer could've been a chance to shake things up, but I have to agree with the above. If we get a 4th healer in current climate I fear we'll only be casting Rock I/II/III/IV and refresh Poison every 30 seconds.
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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    They need to learn how to handle the 3 healers they have before they give us a 4th.
    I hate this mentality more than anything else in this game.

    Should League of Legends not make new champions because the current pool isn't 100% balanced? Should Pokemon stop introducing new Pokemon just because the power tiers are so drastically divided?

    Not only is it an awful idea to repeatedly deny the healing player base access to more options just because the current ones aren't in perfect harmony, adding a 4th healer actually would make balancing easier. With more options comes more opportunities for different healer pairs to complement each other in different ways, meaning there are more combinations to consider that can potentially compete with one another for the status of "optimal." It was literally one of the reasons Square gave for why Gunbreaker was made a tank, so it would be easier for all tanks to thrive rather than always have a 3rd wheel that felt left out.

    Ignoring dupes (AA, BB, CC, DD)...

    We would be going from: AB, AC, BC

    to: AB, AC, AD, BC, BD, CD

    We would literally be doubling the possible combinations, thus allowing more room for different pairs to shine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    I hate this mentality more than anything else in this game.

    Should League of Legends not make new champions because the current pool isn't 100% balanced? Should Pokemon stop introducing new Pokemon just because the power tiers are so drastically divided?

    Not only is it an awful idea to repeatedly deny the healing player base access to more options just because the current ones aren't in perfect harmony, adding a 4th healer actually would make balancing easier. With more options comes more opportunities for different healer pairs to complement each other in different ways, meaning there are more combinations to consider that can potentially compete with one another for the status of "optimal." It was literally one of the reasons Square gave for why Gunbreaker was made a tank, so it would be easier for all tanks to thrive rather than always have a 3rd wheel that felt left out.

    Ignoring dupes (AA, BB, CC, DD)...

    We would be going from: AB, AC, BC

    to: AB, AC, AD, BC, BD, CD

    We would literally be doubling the possible combinations, thus allowing more room for different pairs to shine.
    The problem isn't that they're not perfectly balanced, the problem is they can't make healers both balanced and fun to play. Pokemon is both capable of making mons that are cool looking and ones that are effective in stats, and even then, that game focuses almost purely on the single player experience, where balance is not nearly as big of a concern, and even then, those games have devolved so much in difficulty that you could beat the entire game with nothing but a team of 6 furrets if you wanted to. Any multiplayer in those games is an afterthought.

    I would LOVE a 4th healer, I'm a healer main myself, and I'm great at the role, but I want them to actually be capable of fixing the ones they have because I don't want a 4th healer that's just as boring to play as the 3 we have.

    Also, league as a basis for your argument. LMAO, that game is way too focused on skins and getting as much money as possible. It is notorious for its lack of balance, and is one of the biggest reasons that people continue to leave the game, and is why it has dropped significantly in recent years. So yeah, I do think they need to focus more on balance rather than just releasing a new champion as often as possible, or about making the newest ultimate skin, or w/e the hell they're doing these days. Maybe if they focused on fixing their game people wouldn't be leaving that game in droves.

    edit: as for the whole "they added a tank to better balance out the 3 they have" argument, yes, they're all balanced, but I don't know if you've been in the tank communities lately, but they have a lot of issues with the current iteration of tanks as well, the biggest ones being that they all essentially play the same with nothing to distinguish really any of them, this is especially evident with DRK and WAR, they're practically the same class just with different animations. If that is the route they would take to give us a 4th healer, no thanks. Focus on upping the 3 we have and making them both fun and unique first, then maybe consider a 4th.

    You dont learn to juggle by starting with 4 balls, you start with 2, work up to 3, then 4 etc etc. If you can't juggle 3 balls yet, why would you throw a 4th in the mix
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    Last edited by Billythepancake; 08-10-2019 at 05:59 PM.


    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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