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    Quote Originally Posted by Halobump View Post
    It's fairly good experience, although that is up for debate, but it means that some people feel forced into doing it, others try to attend but spend as little time as possible actually engaging with the content, and others just flat out refuse to do it. Universally, we agree that they are not fun and feel like a necessary evil that we must do to progress our classes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Halobump View Post
    I had a thought that maybe Trust would be a good system to implement into it for the sake of making it available for people who still need to do this content which is very, VERY old now.
    These are literally separate things. The first point is about people who don't need to run it but are complaining they "feel" they need to for the experience, but they don't find it fun.

    The second is about people who do still need to run it so Trust should be put in so they can do it.

    Is this another "do this so we can skip cutscenes again!" thread? Ugh.

    Its optional. No one has to run it once they pass it. I run it for EXP and just watch cartoons or youtube or cook while its going.

    Anyway, SE is looking into making it a 4-man Trust dungeon anyway, I believe. So we'll see how that goes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Halobump View Post
    I dunno, I'm feeling a bit put out at the moment after having a bit of a grumble with some FC friends...apologies for the rant.
    A-about the MSQ Roulette? I'm so confused. What about it would even cause tension? If people are mad people don't want to run it. Well... they are a problem. The people complaining not the people avoiding it.
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    GOING AFK MEANS CONTENT IS BAD = FIX IT

    Quote Originally Posted by Rivxkobe View Post

    Is this another "do this so we can skip cutscenes again!" thread? Ugh.

    Its optional. No one has to run it once they pass it. I run it for EXP and just watch cartoons or youtube or cook while its going.
    I would argue that the fact this is "Another" post about the MSQ roulette being painful proves that this is indeed a real concern for many people, and DOES infact require some attention.
    As you yourself said (as well as many others in this post and others) they queue for this to literally log out and watch TV, that's not PLAYING the game. That's letting the game essentially bot itself as u trickle through it barely paying it any mind. That's bad content design. Just giving us a HUGE reward because they know the content is painful is not really a fix, is it?
    I'm not one to just complain and tear peoples posts apart without also suggesting what I would like to see happen so, in my personal opinion, I would just like to either see the dev's shorten the cutscenes, turn some of them into conversations that happen while you are walking from <fight A> to <fight B>, or just simply allow for the scenes to be skipped if everyone already has completed the dungeon. I'm sure some people will argue this would lead to people just kicking the person who is new, or leaving after 15 minutes; but I'm really not sure what other "cheap" dev fixes you could come up with to make the content engaging! It's a boring slog, the dungeons are plain outdated and outmoded at this point. AT the very least they could break Preatorium in half.
    {throw in the MSQ trials Garuda Normal/Titan Normal/Ifrit Normal into the mix (I just hate getting those ones when I'm doing leveling roulette feels a waste of the roulette xD)}
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