Hrothgar Review

[Reinha]

We already knew since the benchmark that Hrothgar hair is like Au Ra horns when it comes to character data. Just a part of the face. Fur pattern is the equivalent of hair styles and pattern color is the equivalent of hair highlights since those can be changed at the barber. We know Au Ra can't change their horns without paying so there is no reason to expect it to be any different for the Hrothgar. It's not realistic to expect them to change how character data works for one race.

It would be more beneficial to ask for more fur patterns since those can actually be changed in game, but people stubbornly believe we will be able to customize hair in game in the future and keep asking for more hair styles for Hrothgar even though it's going to be useless for anyone except fantasia users. I know a lot of people like to use full coverage armor which covers fur patterns on other body parts except the tail, but this is a beast race with beastly customization by design. Personally I'm quite happy with my character and being able to change the fur to look like a different cat whenever I want.

Viera on the other hand should have all the usual hair styles because they have normal looking heads and separate hair options.

[Alleo]

It's definitely a limitation due to the system.
They only have so many variables that can be changed, and so many that can be changed via aesthetician.

For Hrothgar, the variable that can be changed via aesthetician is the fur pattern and fur colour, with the 'Hairstyles' instead taking up the same variable slot as Au Ra horns, by being tied to the face.

Unless they change the way the aesthetician works, all Hrothgar will get is more fur patterns.

And it was their great idea to put the fur pattern int he category of the hairstyles instead of putting manes in that one. I am not sure who decided that this would be great? Fur pattern is nice and all but most probably wont even see that if they dont run around nearly naked all the time..while (especially with the helmets missing) most will probably see their head.

[Archaell]

The combination of hair style issue and head gear issue makes the Hrothgar customization severely lacking. One of those would be bad, both of them are dreadful.

The fur patterns are cool, but imo the Hrothgar need serious rework. The heads should be shaved to allow hairstyles and the patterns combined with the hairstyle options to keep the number of variables same. That's likely the most reasonable fix to Aesthetician.

If we go this route I'd like to see some beards combined with the new hairstyles.

So far the race seems more like the early preview. I like it, started playing the game again due to it, but it's definitely not polished and these issues are serious bummer.

[AngelicSnake]

I too am switching back to my Au’ra. I really loved my hrothgar and I could even live with one hairstyle for a bit longer but the live letter didn’t give me any hope. My main issue was not having head gear and how terrible most of the clothes stretched to be around my big boiz body. With my Au’ra nearly all of the af gear looks good on him. I’m gonna miss my kitty but it’s not permanent or anything. I’ll probably switch back if they get a racial overhaul or something (like helmets and hairs) ;_; I always get sad when I Fantasia cause I’m gonna miss my old character lol

[Nedkel]

I've come to realize that Yoshida is a professional liar. Either that or he lets his coders feed him heaps of BS and is showing incompetence at his own duties.

So with the Viera, there are things that hide just the ears. Which means they could use the same API call that does that and apply it to helmets, solving the issue for Viera. Their heads and faces are not oddly shaped. And this isn't the only thing the producer has said that is outright false. Pretty much anytime he says 'system limitation' he's lying out his ass.

What is really happening here is some coder can't be arsed and either Yoshida doesn't want to bother them, or is believing there is 'system limitations' when they simply are too lazy to run through the database. Its pretty bad when modders can get around such 'system limitations' in other games. I'd wager some of the modders in this game could do it too.

Its his cooworkers being lazy and Yoshida having 2 games upon his head, sucking his life out of him.
There is no such thing as "impossible" in the computer modelling world, they are just flat out LAZY, and Yoshida is being forced to manage 2 games at the same time, this is completely insane.

SE are probably taking all the money from FFXIV and they put it all into another totally useless garbage like FFXV was, maybe FFXVI who knows. Wohoo cant wait for another unoptimised boring triple A missery, where you press 1 button for the entire game... Or maybe they are going to make "the quiet man II", another "spectacular success". xD

[Lumivyory]

Its pretty bad when modders can get around such 'system limitations' in other games. I'd wager some of the modders in this game could do it too.

They can indeed. After the recent "hair news" I looked up some of the latest mods out of curiousity and found a couple of mods where people put other FFXIV hairs on Vieras.
Sad to see modders doing a better job at some things than developers.

[foussi]

With the year being 2019, they should be able to overcome these "limitations". I mean the engine is in the way but if the workers stopped being lazy they could add more hrothgar hairstyles and more viera stuff.

[AngusBeef]

Hrothgars' claws should be an optional feature in character customization ( or aesthetician) such as scars, facial hair or fangs, and NOT part of the starting racial gloves.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Personally, I love my Hrothgar and I'm excited to see what else they decide to bring to it!

[Dalmacus]

With the year being 2019, they should be able to overcome these "limitations". I mean the engine is in the way but if the workers stopped being lazy they could add more hrothgar hairstyles and more viera stuff.

Hold on, i don't think modders and dev implements are the same. Modders mod files locally and whatever they modded only appears locally/clientside or only on their screen. Others cannot see whatever they modded.
However, the devs implement is to make sure that all player's client must render such and such so it might put strain on their "limited" game engine.