Hrothgar Review

[Kaethra]

Hold on, i don't think modders and dev implements are the same. Modders mod files locally and whatever they modded only appears locally/clientside or only on their screen. Others cannot see whatever they modded.
However, the devs implement is to make sure that all player's client must render such and such so it might put strain on their "limited" game engine.

So the difference is instead of one player modding their files. SE applies it to a patch and then everyone gets it. That's it.

Its literally the same process, with a different delivery system. Point is, modders did it within a few days, while SE is citing system limitations.

SE is lying. They've been caught in a lie to customers. This is bad. What else aren't they being truthful about?

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

So the difference is instead of one player modding their files. SE applies it to a patch and then everyone gets it. That's it.

Its literally the same process, with a different delivery system. Point is, modders did it within a few days, while SE is citing system limitations.

SE is lying. They've been caught in a lie to customers. This is bad. What else aren't they being truthful about?

It's truly funny to me that gamers think they know so much about the development process. Modding a file is far different than actually developing the hairstyle for new models. The rigging and quality assurance alone are two big things that SE goes through, where as a modder doesn't have to ensure such things work well. Gamers are so entitled anymore that it makes me sick.

[SturmChurro]

You become entitled when you pay for a product.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

You become entitled when you pay for a product.

You become entitled when you start claiming you know what's going on, blame the devs, and act like a child. Yes.

[Kaethra]

It's truly funny to me that gamers think they know so much about the development process. Modding a file is far different than actually developing the hairstyle for new models. The rigging and quality assurance alone are two big things that SE goes through, where as a modder doesn't have to ensure such things work well. Gamers are so entitled anymore that it makes me sick.

Except that I do know how the process works. I'm working on a project currently. Been on it for a few years now.

So yes, I do know what I am talking about. In this case the producer is putting on face (most likely) or is being led around by coders/artists who can't be bothered.

[Ardox]

posting this here. Upvote if you are interested to see that question answered

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[Dalmacus]

Gamers are so entitled anymore that it makes me sick.

You shouldn't be generalizing "Gamers". You are one of them too since you're playing games. People has and always been entitled, nothing has changed.

Except that I do know how the process works. I'm working on a project currently. Been on it for a few years now.

Maybe you can share what you do in that project? Is it a game engine called crystal tools created back in 2007?

[Hypnotic13371337]

I'm honestly shocked that they didn't bother to make the achievement helms work for Hrothgar.

The crowns wouldn't be too hard id imagine, even if it looks like its placed instead of worn.

The biggest offender for me is that the Chocobo helmets aren't wearable, both the legacy and the Chocobo racing achievements are huuuuge time sinks and now they don't have a reward if you are a Hrothgar. I feel like they wouldn't even need to worry a lot about the unique face structure since it covers everything already too.

[Eelanos]

I'm honestly shocked that they didn't bother to make the achievement helms work for Hrothgar.

I'm okay not having those, but I'd have liked them to adapt the MSQ related gear.
I'm going through Stormblood at the moment and I'm on a mission where I have to pretend I'm from the Imperials by dressing like their troops. They make such a fuss about being stealthy and stuff that I couldn't believe the clothes I stole from the imperials weren't adapted to Hrothgar heads.
Like, they-... they were looking straight at me. They were just like "Oh, hey, look! It's our buddy Jimmy! What's that, Jimmy, you want us to leave our spots because our shift is over? Oh, but that felt too short! Whatever, if little Jimmy says so, there's nothing suspicious about this. Doo, do doo, do dooo~"
It was so immersion-breaking it was hilarious. But, like... a bad kind of hilarious.

It's ten times as egregious because that very same day I found a full helmet that I could wear, but the MSQ one I just couldn't. Why is that distinction there? I have no idea.

[IvoYaridovich]

I switched back to Au Ra after having a Hrothgar for awhile. In the end, the lack of hats, the fact we couldn't really aesthetician to play with our looks properly with hairstyles. the hunch, and a lot of lazy facial expressions made me like it less than Au Ra. I wouldn't mind the hunch if it was something we could c-pose away, but the hunch persisting in several combat idle poses (AST was the one that killed me, hunkered over that globe like its a precious thing) was obnoxious. I really don't get the MMO market obsession with bestial races NEEDING to hunch.

It also mildly bothered me that we couldn't be as big as Runar. >.> I tried a ton of different idles but Runar just seems to be bigger than any hrothgar we can make. XD

That said, they should totally make an emote to let the big races like Roes, male Au Ra, and Hroths carry the smaller races like Runar carries Y'shtola. >.> (or just carry anyone, cue the hilarity of a min size lala carrying a max sized roe)