Bard in FF14 is so much like Hunter without Pet in Ragnarok Online

[HyoMinPark]

rDPS = DPS - (damage gained from others' external buffs) + (damage given to others by your own external buffs) - (aDPS = DPS - (damage gained from others' single target external buffs))

you get .....damage give to others by your own external buffs.

Me too.

No one here is arguing that DNC doesn't provide more in terms of buffs than BRD. They are arguing that it doesn't matter because BRD's rDPS is higher regardless of how little buffs they offer the party. And rDPS is the only metric that matters in this analysis.

[TcomJ]

No one here is arguing that DNC doesn't provide more in terms of buffs than BRD. They are arguing that it doesn't matter because BRD's rDPS is higher regardless of how little buffs they offer the party. And rDPS is the only metric that matters in this analysis.

And I have been talking about bard identity that buffs the party especially damage buffs all go to DNC. Since you brag about rDPS and aDPS, you might want to get the definition or their formulae correct first before straw manning to other topics.

[HyoMinPark]

And I have been talking about bard identity that buffs the party especially damage buffs all go to DNC. Since you brag about rDPS and aDPS, you might want to get the definition or their formulae correct first before straw manning to other topics.

You are so hung up on the differences in aDPS and the number of buffs DNC gives that you completely ignore that BRD's rDPS - despite Battle Voice being their only raid buff - is STILL HIGHER THAN DNC's. rDPS is the only metric that matters, so you need to drop this obsession you have with aDPS because those numbers are not important.

I've already mentioned that they won't be able to remove abilities. It's a wishful thinking. But they didn't

1) Change the sound?
2) Bring back FR?

While SAM and SCH all got abilities back? This gotta be a joke.
Well, the Q/A was pretty obvious why they didn't.

Bringing back Foe Requiem would be a far larger change compared to giving SCH an Aetherflow dump and SAM a Sen management skill. Those are more quality of life than direct buffs to damage. Bringing back Foe's would be a direct buff to BRD's rDPS, which would mean that the other two physical ranged may have to be adjusted to compensate for any disparity that may occur.

[TcomJ]

You are so hung up on the differences in aDPS and the number of buffs DNC gives that you completely ignore that BRD's rDPS - despite Battle Voice being their only raid buff - is STILL HIGHER THAN DNC's. rDPS is the only metric that matters, so you need to drop this obsession you have with aDPS because those numbers are not important.



Bringing back Foe Requiem would be a far larger change compared to giving SCH an Aetherflow dump and SAM a Sen management skill. Those are more quality of life than direct buffs to damage. Bringing back Foe's would be a direct buff to BRD's rDPS, which would mean that the other two physical ranged may have to be adjusted to compensate for any disparity that may occur.

Like I said before, I don't care about the rank Bard is in especially for the total DPS we do. The problem I have is the job that gives the difference between rDPS and aDPS that much suppose to be bard not DNC. In fact, DNC as a dps doesn't even suppose to be in the game if it means destroying other jobs identity.

And you are going to keep shouting oh we should be happy just the way it is because oh look rDPS rank is so high when mostly it comes from well, personal DPS.