SE can you stop making FFXIV so easy and jobs so similar to each other?

[AniKai]

Wait, what? How would a melee healer even work? Like more DPS focused with melee attacks, but still heals from the distance?

It would probably work a bit like it works/worked in Rift. Damage you do, portion of it is delivered as healing to ppl nearby. Or, ppl who hit same target as you get healed - so it'd work only when they fight what you fight. It works fine in Rift (where it's the only method of healing...). IDK if such'd mesh well here tho ...

[AniKai]

Having a support role won't break the game but expand on jobs that already exists in the game and other jobs to come into FFXIV in the future. This game is all Balance all jobs but the problem here is that you end up with all the joba feeling the same and while there are range jobs and melee jobs like as you said, do they really do anything else? Why can't we have a melee healer? Why can't we have Red mage have acess to vecure II or ver-regen? They are red mages and should have access to some of white mages more healing kit. Why can't Bard have it's support skills songs back? Bard is known to be a support job rather than DPS , that is Ranger.

Support roles in general are the least played/least liked kind of classes. They're jacks of many trades but masters of none. People (I believe) usually prefer something that excels in its given role instead of something that does a bit of everything but for balance reasons doesn't do anything very well.

[DJMau]

Well...when they design content or job mechanics that require more than one brain cell to execute you get 15 different threads complaining that it's too hard. Or it sucks.

Remember Steps of Faith? On release it was a challenge but the community threw a hissy fit about it and they dumbed it down so Lazy Noskill could cost through no problem. Or for a more recent example Dark Knight. TBN unlike the other short CD tank skills has an added component to its use. But because it's not a push and forget defensive CD its derided and said to be a bad skill.

It's not SE at fault here. They're listening to feedback that quite loudly comes from subpar entitled whiny fans that want everything easy.

[Jkap_Goat]

Ilevel 160-255 gear? I assume that is 60 gear,you can use centrio seals in ishgard inn and dysnth the gear there.

Best way to get Centrio seals is hunts, b rank hunts, blue mage masked carnival. It's best to use tinkering calms and HQ bacon broth
Once you get that up, you can get the gear in idyshire and use poetics to buy the gear from there and dysnth them, get them higher, and once they are high enough, make them agumented shire gear and continue from there.

[Jkap_Goat]

Sorry, but, it doesn't work like that between e.g. ilvl 160-255.

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[Jkap_Goat]

Support roles in general are the least played/least liked kind of classes. They're jacks of many trades but masters of none. People (I believe) usually prefer something that excels in its given role instead of something that does a bit of everything but for balance reasons doesn't do anything very well.

Support was the least played, least liked? I what about Bard? What about AST? Those where Support jobs? What about Dancer?

FFXIV needs a Support or Hybrid category

[Sathona]

Open World is fine as is,people need to do crafter things in the open world and as a crafter u cant fight back if u aggro them + its time consuming sitting to kill enemies then switch back to crafter to do what you need to do.

[AniKai]

Support was the least played, least liked? I what about Bard? What about AST? Those where Support jobs? What about Dancer?

FFXIV needs a Support or Hybrid category

It depends on how the class feels. DNC doesn't *feel* like support, even if it is - to some extent - and because it doesn't *feel* like a class that exists just to carry the rest of the group it's a-ok. And whenever AST was "support job" - it wasn't that in launch of AST, and it's not that today either. In a sense if AST is support job, then WHM is a support job too...

[Jkap_Goat]

It depends on how the class feels. DNC doesn't *feel* like support, even if it is - to some extent - and because it doesn't *feel* like a class that exists just to carry the rest of the group it's a-ok. And whenever AST was "support job" - it wasn't that in launch of AST, and it's not that today either. In a sense if AST is support job, then WHM is a support job too...

Dancer is a Support job, that's why they have the low DPS becuase they bring in support

Yoshi P even said , it's a heavy support Job.

Your not making any sense...

WHM is a Pure healing job, it makes sense that WHM has the best overall raw healing than the other two healers , White mage isnt a support job.


AST is was Healer/Support job, but it doesn't heal as well as a White mage and it shouldn't becuase it would take white mages spot, but it used to bring in Buffs for the party.

Like if FFXIV had a Support role , these jobs would make sense not be as powerful as pure roles like Black mage or samurai

[Jkap_Goat]

Tank/ healer/ DPS/ Support