SE can you stop making FFXIV so easy and jobs so similar to each other?

[JisKing98]

Honestly tho what would make us fight a lvl81 mob? Like what reward or incentive is there to do it if they put it in?
Honestly imo they should just change the whole fate system. Make it like world quests from wow. So that they reward you with like halfway gear or something (ex: ilvl435, 455, etc) so if you don’t want to do the crafting route you can just do fates to get the same ilvl gear but without the extra stats from the high crafted gear. This could then cause ppl to go around areas and fight high end mobs like you suggested but this is just me spitballing.

[Jkap_Goat]

I'm glad I can assign buttons the same way on mch, drg, monk, Sam, and DNC.

Oh wait, I can't. They don't function the same.

Of course they all do dps. That's like complaining all cars have wheels.


Adding a support role won't change these things. People like to see big numbers. That's why dps is the most played role. Support roles would have to be either completely broken or incredibly lame so they don't break the game. It's not going to happen.

Having a support role won't break the game but expand on jobs that already exists in the game and other jobs to come into FFXIV in the future. This game is all Balance all jobs but the problem here is that you end up with all the joba feeling the same and while there are range jobs and melee jobs like as you said, do they really do anything else? Why can't we have a melee healer? Why can't we have Red mage have acess to vecure II or ver-regen? They are red mages and should have access to some of white mages more healing kit. Why can't Bard have it's support skills songs back? Bard is known to be a support job rather than DPS , that is Ranger.

[Jkap_Goat]

Imagine this being a thing and you have to go from X to Y for a quest without flying as a newbie.
This would be ridiculously annoying like it is in GW2.

I am better with being strongest on earth warrior of light, the killer of gods and dragons, who fought the apocalypse himself, than a weak noodle who will die from tree attacking him.
Can you even imagine how would that look? You could fight and defeat incredibly strong entities who are able to change reality and destroy it, yet you get killed by a bunch of rabbits or mushrooms.
That would be double ridiculous.

I wouldn't want 81 mobs to be on an area where quests are done at for casual players but an area that is optional, where some hard side quests are at

[Jkap_Goat]

Yes I have

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Having a support role won't break the game but expand on jobs that already exists in the game and other jobs to come into FFXIV in the future. This game is all Balance all jobs but the problem here is that you end up with all the joba feeling the same and while there are range jobs and melee jobs like as you said, do they really do anything else? Why can't we have a melee healer? Why can't we have Red mage have acess to vecure II or ver-regen? They are red mages and should have access to some of white mages more healing kit. Why can't Bard have it's support skills songs back? Bard is known to be a support job rather than DPS , that is Ranger.

Is it?

Or is this your XI experience dictating what xivs jobs should be like.

I didn't play Xi, so I never played a ff game with ranger as a job. All I know is archer, which, surprise, is a dps job.

Maybe we should let the game act like every other ff title, and be it's own thing with similarities, instead of saying "well, in the other mmo it was this way, so it has to be this way".

[AniKai]

"Desynthesis made easy"... Right? Well, tell me then how a newbie can EASILY get their desynth leveled up from e.g. 0? The ol' brain-fart gaps in ilvl are still there... I gave up desynth long ago - can't be arsed to farm ex's just to get a notch more lvl. To get my goldsmith desynth up to shadowbringers? Yea, won't happen - ever.

[Jkap_Goat]

"Desynthesis made easy"... Right? Well, tell me then how a newbie can EASILY get their desynth leveled up from e.g. 0? The ol' brain-fart gaps in ilvl are still there... I gave up desynth long ago - can't be arsed to farm ex's just to get a notch more lvl. To get my goldsmith desynth up to shadowbringers? Yea, won't happen - ever.

You don't even have to farm ex for dysnthing...? You just buy cheap vendor gear or go unsynch in a low level duegon to get the gear and break those down.

[Jkap_Goat]

Is it?

Or is this your XI experience dictating what xivs jobs should be like.

I didn't play Xi, so I never played a ff game with ranger as a job. All I know is archer, which, surprise, is a dps job.

Maybe we should let the game act like every other ff title, and be it's own thing with similarities, instead of saying "well, in the other mmo it was this way, so it has to be this way".

Actually FFXIV was my first MMO, I started to play FFXI a bit like last year and still pretty new to that game, also I didn't say anything about FFXI nor saying" FFXIV should be FFXI" so you can stop putting words in my mouth, thank you. Rude as well

FFXI you auto-attack, skillchains , perform actions with the menu list or macros , FFXIV you press buttons to perform actions

[Anne-]

Why can't we have a melee healer?

Wait, what? How would a melee healer even work? Like more DPS focused with melee attacks, but still heals from the distance?

[AniKai]

You don't even have to farm ex for dysnthing...? You just buy cheap vendor gear or go unsynch in a low level duegon to get the gear and break those down.

Sorry, but, it doesn't work like that between e.g. ilvl 160-255.