Cross world Market good or bad?

[Krotoan]

Man...33 mil is nothing? *looks at sad retainers*
C-can yall like make a mass donation and send it my way since gil means nothing to you? I sure know how to blow through all of it and it not being all on house and glam...just saying... don't ask what I spend it on just help the poor out D:!! Plz...?

*cough* but a serious question. What is this thread even about again? I am starting to feel like the main post is not quite it...

Someone is sour they can't sell things for crazy markups anymore. That's all.

[Nanami_Naniwa]

I took this quite serious at the beginning but realized half way through that my dear crafter friend is just trolling.

First off - Owning 10m or even 20m is a lot for most of players. It is nothing for crafters though. I do understand the point that you want some reward back after all the time and gil you spent to get your crafters where they are right now. Leveling them all up to 80 and either spend a lot of time or gil on overmelding - again and again with every crafter patch - oh boy, you sure want to make decent profit for all the trouble you went through.

There are three reasons prizes went down so quickly with the new crafted gear:

1) It is darn cheap to make.
It is. Besides the Goetica you don't really need anything to craft it. I've seen a lot of crafters buying 2k Goetica for 2m via PF (and I did the same). So you basically spent a minimal amount of gil on the items. So it is naturally that they just don't sell off for that much gil.

2) There are way more crafters around
Everyone and their mother have crafters now. At some point in SB half of the players decided to jump on the gil-train. And it isn't that hard to level them up anymore. So the competition is much higher than back in SB (or even HW).

3) Cross-Server MB stabilizes the prices much quicker
And that is actually a good thing because it finally helps to de-monopolize the market and helps new players get into it as well. Besides - speaking for EU servers - the prizes tend to be very similar especially for the end crafts. I checked for the new glamour as well as the glamour mats and they all add up at the same prize (plus/minus 200k). Personally I still looking forward to one MB for all servers in on Datacenter.

That being said - There still is gil in crafters. Bufffood & Pots will sell on a regular basis. The crafted gear will sell as well just not as expansive as before. I do agree however, that the best way to make gil right now is to sell materials from gathering. Time to overmeld the gatherers, hu?

[Kaedan]

Yes, world visit has been amazing for equalizing the economy between servers.

Before, some servers had absolutely outrageous prices on certain goods, while other servers on the same DC had much more reasonable prices. But the people on the former server had no choice but to pay the gouged prices. Now they can go to other servers if the prices are gouged on their server.

In other words, it opened up the field of competition, allowing for much more competition and thus a more reasonable price equilibrium.

[Hash_Browns]

Still gonna go with them being good, but it will be interesting to see what happens with the MB now that Mogboard is getting a paywall.

[IamBetterThanYou]

Most of you guys are buyers or zelkova lumber crafter. You have no idea what you spewing sorry to say. I have already explained why cross world market is the issue and yet you going round with how sick this new changes are for economy stability.
I said this many times and gonna say one more time. IDC about your stable economy. All i care about is gil and this stable economy is making crafting not worth it anymore.

Chump change of 800k gil/hr may be good in ur book but its not for most crafters.

[Nanami_Naniwa]

Oh, come on now! You started this thread with "I just want to know how other crafters feel" and now when other crafters step forward, you accuse them of not knowing their stuff because they are "Zelkova Crafters"? Did it occur to you that maybe not all just agree to you? Don't ask for an opinion if you blame People to not know what they are talking about just because they don't agree with you.

I get you. I truly do. I focus mainly on crafting and selling stuff on the MB. And it hit me as well that the prizes for the new crafted gear dropped so fast and even the prizes for the mats from the maps. I really do hoped that they would at least stay somewhere above 2m for some time (planned with 5m to be honest - at least for the first week). But it didn't. Even if it is annoying that I'm not making that big of a profit as I used to be and that I need to adjust or "step up my game" I still think that the cross-server MB is a blessing. I can buy out the mats for the new glamour cheap and the glamour itself still sells for a good enough profit on my server. And I'm on Spriggan. There isn't much of a economy on Spriggan.

I care about gil. I care a looot about gil. But things have changed and we need to adjust. We just can't rely on our experience of the past anymore but have to take a closer look at the MB again to see where the wins and loses lies.

[Hash_Browns]

Most of you guys are buyers or zelkova lumber crafter. You have no idea what you spewing sorry to say. I have already explained why cross world market is the issue and yet you going round with how sick this new changes are for economy stability.
I said this many times and gonna say one more time. IDC about your stable economy. All i care about is gil and this stable economy is making crafting not worth it anymore.

Chump change of 800k gil/hr may be good in ur book but its not for most crafters.

WONT SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE OMNICRAFTERS!

[Misutoraru]

Most of you guys are buyers or zelkova lumber crafter. You have no idea what you spewing sorry to say. I have already explained why cross world market is the issue and yet you going round with how sick this new changes are for economy stability.
I said this many times and gonna say one more time. IDC about your stable economy. All i care about is gil and this stable economy is making crafting not worth it anymore.

Chump change of 800k gil/hr may be good in ur book but its not for most crafters.

You start a thread asking how other crafter feel, some don’t share the same thought as you and suddenly you go all “whoever disagree with me, know nothing”.
This isn’t how discussion work, is it

[Deceptus]

Most of you guys are buyers or zelkova lumber crafter. You have no idea what you spewing sorry to say. I have already explained why cross world market is the issue and yet you going round with how sick this new changes are for economy stability.
I said this many times and gonna say one more time. IDC about your stable economy. All i care about is gil and this stable economy is making crafting not worth it anymore.

Chump change of 800k gil/hr may be good in ur book but its not for most crafters.

Found the selfish, greedy person.

And open market is a better market. Learn to adapt to it or fail.

[Laott9]

I like it. Especially on spriggan. The sellers there sells so expensive that it is necessary for pple like me to change the server. Let me explain.
A chest for my drg costs on spriggan over 2 000 000 at the beginning. On ragnarok 1 000 000. Where will I buy? Same like black Pegasusm on some servers for 20 million on spriggan to 80 million.