The idea that we need to DPS must go.

[Lodi]

I have recently tried savage content for progress in party finder. I tried ALL DAY yesterday to find a practice group that was close to the kill. IN EVERY SINGLE GROUP I found the other healer was obsessed with DPS-ing. Diffrent healer every time. I BARELY EVER saw any healing casts, only Broil, Malefic or Gleam. It felt like i was the only one focusing on keeping 8 people alive for progress. When I mentioned it in the chat most of them claimed they had everything on CD. SO USE SOME SKILLS THATS NOT ON CD!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like............... IDK................. an actual healing skill as well?????
On dead times, where people dont need heals IDM doing DPS but come on! Ifyoure on a healing job then do your freaking job. I was so angry at the end of the day

If people were dying, the other healer didn't do their job correctly. If people weren't, they were doing enough.

Also, from my experience with E1s:
56 healing gcds including 30 with no cast time, and 48 healing ogcds.
That means if you were with me, you would have seen 26 casts.
That was more than enough, I had 34% overheal.

On the other hand, 76 Glare casts.
That was barely enough.


If you look at better groups, you'll notice that gcd heals are barely used... because they're barely necessary. If you handle your ogcds well and your group avoids damage, you will rarely need to use healing gcds.

[Sebazy]

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Do you honestly believe what you are saying here? No sarcasm btw, serious question.

[tesni_g]

I have recently tried savage content for progress in party finder. I tried ALL DAY yesterday to find a practice group that was close to the kill. IN EVERY SINGLE GROUP I found the other healer was obsessed with DPS-ing. Diffrent healer every time. I BARELY EVER saw any healing casts, only Broil, Malefic or Gleam. It felt like i was the only one focusing on keeping 8 people alive for progress. When I mentioned it in the chat most of them claimed they had everything on CD. SO USE SOME SKILLS THATS NOT ON CD!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like............... IDK................. an actual healing skill as well?????
On dead times, where people dont need heals IDM doing DPS but come on! Ifyoure on a healing job then do your freaking job. I was so angry at the end of the day

I remember feeling like this when I first started raiding. WHMs would ask someone to flash the parse and I would be infuriated that they cared more about their dps than actually healing. I healed so much! I was healing my butt off and they weren't doing anything!

What I didn't understand then was the power of my cooldowns. A well-timed Earthly Star is the equivalent of 2.5 Helios, which effectively means to heal that kind of damage, I would need to cast 3 direct heals. It makes no sense for an AST to not reach for Star first, if that's at all a possibility. For SCH, so much of their healing is inside CDs. Their spammables are the least efficient (if a shield is not needed or already present, 2 of 3 are useless), and by the time you see a SCH spamming direct heals, the raid's in a lot of danger.

I've also learned fights and there are a lot of times where people don't have to be healed up right away, which means Eos can stay busy and hots get their full value. So often we top people off and let ticks of a hot go to waste. Only two hots in the game have cast times--there's nine more we never "see" being cast. When I started raiding, I didn't know what these icons looked like or realized just how much healing the ground circle could do. I didn't trust my own power and I didn't trust my cohealer.

My healing threshold has changed. I was once that healer in Sastasha casting cure when the tank took an auto. Now I look like one of those broil spammers who cares more about their dps than casting heals. I do care about healing, just as much as I ever did. My best (and burst) healing is invisible. It looks like broil spam. I've learned to trust my cohealer, too, and their power.

[fantasticm]

What's worse:
A) A pug healer that sits around spamming Cure/Physick/Benefic when at 100% health and seems to have lost all methods of human communication when you attempt to remind them of skills such as 'regen' or 'excogitation' or perhaps 'aspected benefic' and other esoteric abilities that may or may not be lurking on their hotbars.
B) A healer that keeps everyone at 100% and refuses to do aught else for long periods of time, then proceeds to gloat about their anti-dps position both in game and out of it, promoting their poor play as if it were something to be proud of.

[Urthdigger]

I have recently tried savage content for progress in party finder. I tried ALL DAY yesterday to find a practice group that was close to the kill. IN EVERY SINGLE GROUP I found the other healer was obsessed with DPS-ing. Diffrent healer every time. I BARELY EVER saw any healing casts, only Broil, Malefic or Gleam. It felt like i was the only one focusing on keeping 8 people alive for progress. When I mentioned it in the chat most of them claimed they had everything on CD. SO USE SOME SKILLS THATS NOT ON CD!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like............... IDK................. an actual healing skill as well?????
On dead times, where people dont need heals IDM doing DPS but come on! Ifyoure on a healing job then do your freaking job. I was so angry at the end of the day

You didn't see them casting because oGCD abilities are instant cast. Everything being on cooldown isn't a "problem" per se, it's a goal. You use your oGCD heals first, then your GCD heals. Not only does it allow for more DPS, but keeping your skills on cooldown allows you to use them more often during the fight (as more of that time is spent refreshing the cooldown that sitting ready), and saves on MP. Also a lot of these heals are QUITE powerful, so healers may be allowing players to drop lower before using their skills so as not to waste potency. I honestly think if you were finding yourself "healing all the time" it was because you were throwing out heals early and overhealing.

[Alistaire]

What's worse:
A) A pug healer that sits around spamming Cure/Physick/Benefic when at 100% health and seems to have lost all methods of human communication when you attempt to remind them of skills such as 'regen' or 'excogitation' or perhaps 'aspected benefic' and other esoteric abilities that may or may not be lurking on their hotbars.
B) A healer that keeps everyone at 100% and refuses to do aught else for long periods of time, then proceeds to gloat about their anti-dps position both in game and out of it, promoting their poor play as if it were something to be proud of.

Yes. /10char

[Sathona]

yikes

/10char

[Sylvain]

I was main AST in SB and rerolled BLM.
A friend of mine kept complaining how demanding to heal Titania and innocence were. Like '' I'm always ouf of EF and mp''.

Admittedly I was surprised as it didn't seem to require any heal at all beside the 3 tree phase... So I did level my SCH to see through his eyes...

God it is a snooze fest, a chance Eden Savage looks more engaging (for healer)

So... No you can definitely have nothing to heal. I healed innocence and Titania without a single gcd heals multiple times (not counting transition).
If I were to not dps I might as well watch Netflix while doing these Ex. Trials.

[EaMett]

Looks like bait but just going to point out you won’t clear any savage this week without healer dps.

[Vitreus]

If the devs truly don't want us to dps as much they need us to give something else to do when we don't need to heal. Our role will always have downtime, it's inherent to the design. I have no problem with our jobs becoming more focused on support, for example astrologians pulling cards more often than every thirty seconds. But as it is there is nothing to do except dps.

Part of the reason the dps change feels so horrible is that the devs wanted us to play differently, dps less, without actually designing the jobs that way. How often we enter downtime is determined by how strong our heals are compared to the current content we are doing. We see this every patch, as we get better gear and grow stronger our downtime increases. Simplifying our dps didn't actually change how often we dps. It wasn't all the healers choosing to dps, that's how our role was defined. You could reduce us all to a single, boring, spammable spell and we would still do damage.